# Rapunzel of TANGLED appreciated thread: Disney creates the ultimate CGI beauty.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 13, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480 "2011-01-13T17:44:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/81 "2011-03-24T20:40:36Z")

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Yup, I hate musicals, songs from musicals, Disney songs, and especially songs from disney musicals, but I might just download the I’ve Got a Dream song if it’s available as a single because that song was sweet. The rest of the songs, not so much. I would have made several return trips to watch it in the theatre “if it weren’t for all that fruity singing”, to quote Homer.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/82 "2011-03-24T21:25:11Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I’m not as.. um.. _passionate_ about Tangled as MutaraNebula, but I did enjoy the movie and we’ll probably pick up the DVD for the kids. The “I’ve Got a Dream” song from the tavern scene is a particular favorite of theirs.

“Your dream is dumb. Shut it - I wanna hear hers.” (paraphrased.)

I think my favorite part was arguing with my husband about whether or not having all of her hair braided up would make it short enough to not drag the ground, and the ensuing argument about whether or not the weight of it would break her neck. 😃

We may not be the exact target audience for sweet Disney movies…

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**Author:** ![MutaraNebula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MutaraNebula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MutaraNebula)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/83 "2011-03-25T16:41:36Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I’m not as.. um.. _passionate_ about Tangled as MutaraNebula, but I did enjoy the movie and we’ll probably pick up the DVD for the kids. The “I’ve Got a Dream” song from the tavern scene is a particular favorite of theirs.

Flynn and Rapunzel’s part of the song near the end are the best part of that song!  
MOTHER KNOWS BEST is also an excellent track. (Not the reprise so much).

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/84 "2011-03-25T23:12:01Z")

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> [@MutaraNebula](#):
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> And no I am not a shill for Disney and don’t work for them and have no connection to them . I just want to spread the word of this delightful fim to any who

If that’s the case, then why are all 9 of your posts to this board about Tangled? I loved the film as much as the next guy, but I’m not going to go around the internetz and do free advertising for it.

BTW, I picked up the Bluray and gave it a second watch earlier this week. Holds up just as well the second time (and is just as good in 2D). Shame on the Academy for not even NOMINATING it for best Animated film!!!

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/85 "2011-03-30T05:02:43Z")

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> [@dzeiger](#):
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> OK, so I saw the film over the weekend. Good film, not sure it was worth the cost of admission, but I’m not sure any film is worth the cost of 3D admission these days.
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> Two thoughts I had on watching it.
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> 1. OK, so yeah, kidnapping and holding a girl hostage are pretty bad things. But in the intro, it was implied that it was a bad thing to even have kept it to herself over the years. But then how is it OK to boil the flower in water and make a soup out of it to heal one person?

You know, I thought the very same thing. Why was the “mother” selfish for wanting to keep the flower to herself? Why should she give up her life in order to save the Queen’s life? Because she’s the Queen her life is more important?

Damn monarchists…

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/86 "2011-03-30T05:56:27Z")

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> [@dzeiger](#):
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> 1. OK, so yeah, kidnapping and holding a girl hostage are pretty bad things. But in the intro, it was implied that it was a bad thing to even have kept it to herself over the years. But then how is it OK to boil the flower in water and make a soup out of it to heal one person?

Because the queen did not know and could not have known that you could use it (apparently) infinitely many times by singing the right song.

She wasn’t being selfish; to her it was a one-time thing for one person. If they even had a hunch it could be used again, selfishness would have dictated they keep it for their own later use.

I don’t know that the movie implied the “mother” was wrong at the beginning either for not telling people about the flower. Am I forgetting something?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/87 "2011-03-30T06:19:11Z")

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> [@Carmady](#):
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> I don’t know that the movie implied the “mother” was wrong at the beginning either for not telling people about the flower. Am I forgetting something?

The opening narration said something like, “But the old woman was selfish and wanted it only for herself.”

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**Author:** ![MutaraNebula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MutaraNebula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MutaraNebula)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/88 "2011-03-31T16:39:14Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> The opening narration said something like, “But the old woman was selfish and wanted it only for herself.”

She had one foot in the grave being that old…can we really consider her selfish for wanting to use the flower…to like..live?!

Can’t believe the DVD finally is here!

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/89 "2011-03-31T16:45:47Z")

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> [@MutaraNebula](#):
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> She had one foot in the grave being that old…can we really consider her selfish for wanting to use the flower…to like..live?!

Yeah, that’s my point. No, the old woman isn’t a nice person, but she shouldn’t have been called selfish at the beginning.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/90 "2011-03-31T20:29:01Z")

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The beginning is the one thing I don’t like about _Tangled_. There’s just SO MUCH exposition to set up the story: A drop of sunlight … created a magical flower … that was hidden away by an old woman … until it was used to save the queen … causing her to give birth to a magical baby … who the old woman kidnapped. It feels rushed and convoluted.

\*Hercules \*did a much better job of setting up a similar backstory.

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rapunzel-of-tangled-appreciated-thread-disney-creates-the-ultimate-cgi-beauty/567480/91 "2011-03-31T20:38:26Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Yeah, that’s my point. No, the old woman isn’t a nice person, but she shouldn’t have been called selfish at the beginning.

Yes, no, maybe. She’s not selfish for using the flower, but she is selfish for hiding the flower so that she has exclusive use of it, given that there’s no reason to believe that there’s no reason to believe it can only be used to heal one person.

Now, if she knows for certain that if she reveals it to the world that people will come, take it, and boil it into royal soup, then her hiding it is understandable, but the usual act of a Good Person in these types of tales is to try and share, even if it does end up with the good thing being taken away.

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