# Rashida Tlaib use profanity cals for trumps impeachment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 4, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206 "2019-01-04T18:42:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/81 "2019-01-05T16:51:54Z")
Here is the current Article of Impeachment proposed by Brad Sherman (CA) and co-sponsored by Al Green (TX) - let’s see who adds their names to it: > [@](#): > > **House Resolution 13 - Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors** > > \*Resolved, That Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate: > > Article of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors. > > ARTICLE I > > In his conduct while President of the United States, Donald John Trump, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed and impeded the administration of justice during a Federal investigation in that: > > Knowing that Federal law enforcement authorities were investigating possible criminal law violations of his former National Security Advisor, General Michael Flynn and knowing that Federal law enforcement authorities were conducting one or more investigations into Russian state interference in the 2016 campaign for President of the United States, and that such investigation(s) included the conduct of his campaign personnel and associates acting on behalf of the campaign, to include the possible collusion by those individuals with the Russian government, Donald John Trump sought to use his authority to hinder and cause the termination of such investigation(s) including through threatening, and then terminating, James Comey, who was until such termination the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. > > The pattern of behavior leading to the conclusion that he sought to cause the hindrance or termination of said investigation(s) include the following: > > (1) Requesting that the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation curtail the investigation of the activities of General Michael Flynn under circumstances wherein it appeared that Director Comey might be terminated if he failed to adhere to such request. > > (2) Making a determination to terminate the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and only thereafter requesting that the Deputy Attorney General provide him with a memorandum detailing inadequacies in the Director’s performance of his duties. > > (3) Despite offering differing rationales for the termination of the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, admitted subsequently that the main reason for the termination was that the Director would not close or alter the investigation of matters related to the involvement of Russia in the 2016 campaign for President of the United States. > > (4) Stated that, once he had terminated the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the pressure of said investigation had been significantly reduced. > > In all of this, Donald John Trump has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States. > > Wherefore, Donald John Trump, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.\* ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/82 "2019-01-05T21:11:11Z")
I’ve visited bars in Vegas where I witnessed swearing. Gambling, too. Some of them literally have girls in skimpy outfits dancing on tables. So I’m not\* too\* surprised. But successfully impeaching the motherfucker seems like an idle boast at this point, the Senate still being mostly full of co-conspirators. It would be smarter to wait to broadcast this intention until the Dems can demonstrate that Trump really is a Russian asset and ten other kinds of criminal, _then_ dare the GOP to continue to stand up for him. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/83 "2019-01-05T22:22:38Z")
No, it’s not happening right now, but that’s not why it’s being brought up. It’s enough, and proper, at this point simply to get impeachment into the national discussion, to get it to seem realistic and reasonable and even necessary if the Mueller report supports it. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/84 "2019-01-05T22:46:39Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > You seem to be trying to change the subject. No, that would be you. > [@bionic\_man](#): > > What do you dopes think of this congresswoman using profanity and calling for trumps impeachment?/ I acknowledge that **Mr Smashy** didn’t start the hijack, but he sure as shit jumped on board and took the helm. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/85 "2019-01-05T22:56:16Z")
The State of the Union address is coming up - we have a front runner for the Democratic response. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/86 "2019-01-05T23:02:55Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Since when is protecting a country’s borders automatically xenophobia? Or are you an open borders person, that white guilt or something else says that it’s just _not fair_ to those poor caravans to keep them out, no matter the cost to Americans. Please look at the Rio Grande regions of Texas and try to understand why building a wall between the riverfront and the rest of the state is offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/87 "2019-01-06T00:20:45Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No, it’s not happening right now, but that’s not why it’s being brought up. It’s enough, and proper, at this point simply to get impeachment into the national discussion, to get it to seem realistic and reasonable and even necessary if the Mueller report supports it. If that is the goal, it may have been a wily move to frame it with f-bombs. We aren’t going to just sit conservatives down and carefully reason with them. No, the only sure thing is to appeal to their baser instincts. In this case, the opportunity to point and laugh at the foul-mouthed Muslim congresswoman is a sort of candy coating. Meanwhile, they internalize the impeachment narrative. Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/88 "2019-01-06T02:13:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Please don’t use the word “illegal” as a noun; it’s not something that decent people do. Can decent people still call people convicted of crimes criminals? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/89 "2019-01-06T02:21:04Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Can decent people still call people convicted of crimes criminals? Convicted… interesting word, that. Has a real specific meaning too. So yeah go ahead and call people convicted of crimes criminals. I’m not sure what word we will use to describe the little kids we put in cages, but fuck them anyway, I suppose, since their parents might get convicted of a crime some time in the future, and we’ll get to call THEM criminals. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/90 "2019-01-06T04:06:10Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Seems kind of hypocritical to be critical of President Trump’s brash public discourse style if the Democrats aren’t going to curbstomp this freshman congressman for what she said. We’re not critical of Trump because of his “brash public discourse style”. We’re critical of Trump because he commits crimes, takes bribes, and is incompetent. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/91 "2019-01-06T04:11:02Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Since when is protecting a country’s borders automatically xenophobia? It’s not automatically xenophobia. But it is stupid. Despite what Trump says, we’ve been protecting our border just fine without his wall. The wall is a dumb idea that we don’t need. And we shouldn’t be wasting five billion dollars on something we don’t need. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/92 "2019-01-06T04:46:49Z")
Well, maybe. Maybe an artificial cure for an artificial disease may relax some of the cramped spasms some of our fellow citizens are suffering. But five billion? If we pay another $19.95 can we get two walls, are operators standing by? Its not like private property is a big hairy ass deal in Texas. Or anything. And Big Gummint coming in and doing stuff, shit, that’s as popular as pecan pie, down there. So, yeah, those patriotic Texans be thrilled to give up their land, cheap! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/93 "2019-01-06T06:11:26Z")
A picture of Ron Swanson with “What’s wrong isn’t calling the President a motherfucker, what’s wrong is calling that motherfucker President.” Reddit, natch. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/94 "2019-01-06T09:11:32Z")
> [@bionic\_man](#): > > What do you dopes think of this congresswoman using profanity and calling for trumps impeachment?/ I agree with her 100%, although using such language in a public setting was strategically unwise. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/95 "2019-01-06T09:11:51Z")
AFAIK, Ms. Tlaib has not been charged with a felony. Perhaps OP will comment on these recent Congressmen, all felons: Steve Stockman (D-TX) convicted of fraud Dennis Hastert (D-IL) convicted of charges related to sexual misconduct Michael Grimm (D-NY) convicted of felony tax evasion Trey Radel (D-FL) convicted of possession of cocaine Rick Renzi (D-AZ) convicted of wire fraud, conspiracy, extortion, racketeering, money laundering, etc. Chris Collins (D-NY) indicted for insider trading All these Congresscritters? are from the same party. I’m following FoxNews convention: “D” = the granD olD party but one of our gooD olD boys DiD something wrong." ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/96 "2019-01-06T09:19:07Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > … still waiting on your cite that DHS and DOJ are way off on their reporting of illegals… Since both of those departments of govenment are part of the shut-down I doubt they’re reporting anything at the moment. Please tell me how sending most of the border patrol, TSA, etc. home and making the rest work without pay makes us safer? Seems to me that would have the opposite effect. It just shows that Trump and the Republicans don’t actually give a fuck about border security or preventing terrorism. If they did, they would have insisted on keeping those agencies open, working, and paid. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/97 "2019-01-06T14:10:00Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Since both of those departments of govenment are part of the shut-down I doubt they’re reporting anything at the moment. > > Please tell me how sending most of the border patrol, TSA, etc. home and making the rest work without pay makes us safer? Seems to me that would have the opposite effect. They’re still working, just not getting paid. Though there have been reports that an unusual number of TSA screeners are calling in sick; can’t remember if it was the Administration or Ronna [del]Romney[/del] McDaniel who called those reports “fake news.” ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/98 "2019-01-06T14:13:21Z")
WaPo’s [Dave](https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1081897648951566336) [Weigel](https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1081899279109840898), on Twitter: > [@](#): > > I could maybe, _maybe_ buy the “Tlaib’s rhetoric will hurt Dems” stuff if this was October 2020. But we’re almost as far as you can get from the next election. At this point in the 2018 cycle, the Serious People were wringing hands about f-bombs at the Women’s March. > [@](#): > > I could do a whole “We Didn’t Start the Fire” lyrics sheet of stuff that was supposed to Affect the Election and got forgotten, because we all have Memento brains now. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/99 "2019-01-06T14:48:00Z")
LOL @ Memento brains. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/100 "2019-01-06T15:18:43Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > WaPo’s [Dave](https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1081897648951566336) [Weigel](https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1081899279109840898), on Twitter: This seems a very myopic analysis. It means believing that a certain kind of rhetoric will not enable boosting in the polls for support among the wavering or reinforcing the wagons circled, and that the polling has not any effect on position. Since you like to quote polls quite often you are doing so either only for the rhetorical effect, or in fact you believe they do have some effect. It does not seem likely that the words used by Tlaib are helpful - the agitated Left already is saying this, normally in the Parliamentary games it is better to like Madame Pelosi to play the more “balanced and sage” image to attract the wavering middle and even some of the other side. dīvide et imperā. Not unify the opposition. It is about being clever not being self-satisfying. Many of the Left posters here want the public rhetoric that self satisfies. That does not seem from here to be the smart move, it is the emotionally self satisfying move but it is not the smart move. Madame Pelosi seems very clever and smart in her play. Rachida, not very clever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206.md?page=6)