# Rashida Tlaib use profanity cals for trumps impeachment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 4, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206 "2019-01-04T18:42:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/101 "2019-01-06T19:10:12Z")
As I recall, the phrase, “Impeach the Motherfucker Already,” was being used by Dan Savage two years ago. Of course, Dan Savage is an ass and a bully. But it does seem to be a common sentiment. It can be “politic” to be a bit gentle with one’s fellow politicians. But right now (& for the last dozen years) there is a persistent concern about Washington being too timid in stopping abuses by pols, and too indifferent to the voters who got them in. I think it’s good that someone in the caucus is choosing to align with the base instead of with self-serving Washington caution. Let’s see if the proposition gets more support in the caucus (rude language or not). ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/102 "2019-01-06T19:13:07Z")
So you favor the strategy that was very successful for Mr Gingrich. It is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/103 "2019-01-06T19:18:03Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > This seems a very myopic analysis. > It means believing that a certain kind of rhetoric will not enable boosting in the polls for support among the wavering or reinforcing the wagons circled, and that the polling has not any effect on position. > > Since you like to quote polls quite often you are doing so either only for the rhetorical effect, or in fact you believe they do have some effect. > > It does not seem likely that the words used by Tlaib are helpful - the agitated Left already is saying this, normally in the Parliamentary games it is better to like Madame Pelosi to play the more “balanced and sage” image to attract the wavering middle and even some of the other side. > > dīvide et imperā. Not unify the opposition. > It is about being clever not being self-satisfying. > Many of the Left posters here want the public rhetoric that self satisfies. That does not seem from here to be the smart move, it is the emotionally self satisfying move but it is not the smart move. > Madame Pelosi seems very clever and smart in her play. Rachida, not very clever. I quite honestly have no idea what your point is, or even if you have one. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/104 "2019-01-06T19:38:44Z")
Certainly I have one although perhaps it is not rising to the lofty levels some persons desire for the membership of this board. the point is the analysis if you will that you quote seems very myopic - such things are not just the questions of the elections of 2020, but the cohesion and the unity of the opposition and even the opposition leaners. It is a silly level of thinking. The kinds of rhetoric used by Tlaib can reinforce the intra group solidarity, the circling of the wagons. And this helps in the cohesion of the immediate politics, supports in the polls giving more of the backbone to the opposition, and making things harder. Not all the political effects are the election results anticipated, in the final framing. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/105 "2019-01-06T19:38:50Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Of course, Dan Savage is an ass and a bully. Chiming in just to voice my disagreement with this assertion. Savage is a kind, intelligent, funny, and a gentle soul. He has helped many. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/106 "2019-01-06T20:25:54Z")
> [@bionic\_man](#): > > What do you dopes think of this congresswoman using profanity and calling for trumps impeachment?/ I am going to regard “dopes” as a typo for “dopers.” If it appears again, it will incur a Warning. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/107 "2019-01-06T20:37:58Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > They’re still working, just not getting paid. Uh-huh - I bet morale is in the toilet now, and there’s hand on the flush handle. Just how long does Trump think people are going to stay on the job with no money coming in? This is what, week 3? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/108 "2019-01-06T20:39:11Z")
There are reports of 10%+ of TSA workers calling in sick daily, a number which will only increase. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/109 "2019-01-06T22:06:47Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > AFAIK, Ms. Tlaib has not been charged with a felony. Perhaps OP will comment on these recent Congressmen, all felons: > Steve Stockman (D-TX) convicted of fraud > Dennis Hastert (D-IL) convicted of charges related to sexual misconduct > Michael Grimm (D-NY) convicted of felony tax evasion > Trey Radel (D-FL) convicted of possession of cocaine > Rick Renzi (D-AZ) convicted of wire fraud, conspiracy, extortion, racketeering, money laundering, etc. > Chris Collins (D-NY) indicted for insider trading > All these Congresscritters? are from the same party. I’m following FoxNews convention: “D” = the granD olD party but one of our gooD olD boys DiD something wrong." I guess you know that your post is going to get quoted elsewhere—with the last two sentences deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Erudite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Ancient\_Erudite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Erudite)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/110 "2019-01-06T22:23:17Z")
> [@bionic\_man](#): > > What do you dopes think of this congresswoman using profanity and calling for trumps impeachment?/ She should be replaced. Politics is bad enough, we don’t need profanity. Pelosi told her to be quiet already. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/111 "2019-01-06T22:38:28Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > She should be replaced. Politics is bad enough, we don’t need profanity. > > Pelosi told her to be quiet already. And? Have you ever heard the old white men who swear on the floor of the Congress? But it’s the brown woman, doing so in a bar in a private meeting, that is being criticized. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dYY1oDDYS18/hqdefault.jpg "Cheney Says F Yourself on Senate Floor") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYY1oDDYS18) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/112 "2019-01-06T22:41:27Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > She should be replaced. Politics is bad enough, we don’t need profanity. Replaced? What do you have in mind? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/113 "2019-01-06T22:44:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > There are reports of 10%+ of TSA workers calling in sick daily, a number which will only increase. They’ve missed what, one paycheck now? People may be able to handle that financially, but it’s going to be very demoralizing. They miss another paycheck, and there’s gonna be mass walkouts. They go 3 pay cycle without getting paid, you’re gonna end up with a small percentage of people who have some sort of weird obsessive loyalty to their company left, everyone else will be out the doors. Shut down air travel, and you’re going to have a good portion of the country against you. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/114 "2019-01-06T22:55:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > They’ve missed what, one paycheck now? People may be able to handle that financially, but it’s going to be very demoralizing. > > They miss another paycheck, and there’s gonna be mass walkouts. > > They go 3 pay cycle without getting paid, you’re gonna end up with a small percentage of people who have some sort of weird obsessive loyalty to their company left, everyone else will be out the doors. > > Shut down air travel, and you’re going to have a good portion of the country against you. Not to mention the ports. The companies who can’t get products to sell will be demanding Trump end the “strike”. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/115 "2019-01-06T23:01:29Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Certainly I have one although perhaps it is not rising to the lofty levels some persons desire for the membership of this board. > > the point is the analysis if you will that you quote seems very myopic - such things are not just the questions of the elections of 2020, but the cohesion and the unity of the opposition and even the opposition leaners. It is a silly level of thinking. > > The kinds of rhetoric used by Tlaib can reinforce the intra group solidarity, the circling of the wagons. And this helps in the cohesion of the immediate politics, supports in the polls giving more of the backbone to the opposition, and making things harder. > > Not all the political effects are the election results anticipated, in the final framing. Sorry, but still too cryptic for me. Don’t feel like you have to try again on my account. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/116 "2019-01-06T23:03:45Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Uh-huh - I bet morale is in the toilet now, and there’s hand on the flush handle. > > Just how long does Trump think people are going to stay on the job with no money coming in? This is what, week 3? Today is Day 16 of the shutdown. Tied for second with the 2013 shutdown, and only 3 days away from equalling the legendary 1995-96 shutdown. ETA: Since the House and Senate have adjourned until Tuesday evening and afternoon, respectively, this shutdown will definitely last through Tuesday, which will be Day 18. I suppose a miracle could occur and the House and Senate could pass the same legislation on Tuesday night, and hustle it over for Trump’s signature during his prime tweeting hours, so that the government could reopen on Wednesday, but that seems unlikely to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/117 "2019-01-06T23:08:13Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Shut down air travel, and you’re going to have a good portion of the country against you. If we’re talking about Trump, there has always been a good portion of the country against him. I agree, the longer this shutdown goes on, the more that will abandon him. They hopefully are beginning to realize he’s not very good at deal making. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/118 "2019-01-07T00:21:35Z")
Mitch Albom has a pretty laughable [take on this](https://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/mitch-albom/2019/01/06/rashida-tlaibs-curses-donald-trump-mitch-albom/2490413002/). He got all hung up on the profanity aspect and thinks her usage of mf represents a new low point in politics. Maybe it’s because religion is important to him. I don’t see other reasons anyone else would sincerely think a single instance of general profanity is relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/119 "2019-01-07T06:43:01Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > She should be replaced. Politics is bad enough, we don’t need profanity. > > Pelosi told her to be quiet already. Sure. Is motherfucker the only word that not allowed? What about bullshit? Chickenshit? Asshole? Fuck, shit, pussy, or bitch? Is motherfucker removal-worthy? [Oh shit.](https://youtu.be/_xej2hvJdxw?t=19) Give me a fucking break. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206/120 "2019-01-07T07:40:38Z")
> [@Ancient\_Erudite](#): > > She should be replaced. Politics is bad enough, we don’t need profanity. > > Pelosi told her to be quiet already. Wait, you’re perfectly good with corruption, abuse of power, criminal behavior, ad nauseum as long as people don’t swear? Naturally if you feel she should be replaced, you want Trump replaced as well for his profanity, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rashida-tlaib-use-profanity-cals-for-trumps-impeachment/827206.md?page=7)