# Rate the Marvel Cinematic Universe **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [October 19, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772 "2021-10-19T16:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1 "2021-10-19T16:47:06Z")
Rate the movies from 1 to 10. Please add comments if you like. I will. _Movie, US Release Date, Director(s)_ # Phase One (6 movies) _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ * * * # Phase Two (6 movies) _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ * * * # Phase Three (11 movies) _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ * * * # Phase Four (2 movies so far) _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ * * * _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/1))_ * * * **Upcoming Phase Four Films:** | **Film** | **U.S. release date** | **Director** | | --- | --- | --- | | _[Spider-Man: No Way Home](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_No_Way_Home)_ | Dec 17, 2021 | [Jon Watts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Watts) | | _[Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Strange_in_the_Multiverse_of_Madness)_ | May 6, 2022 | [Sam Raimi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Raimi) | | _[Thor: Love and Thunder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor:_Love_and_Thunder)_ | Jul 8, 2022 | [Taika Waititi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taika_Waititi) | | _[Black Panther: Wakanda Forever](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther:_Wakanda_Forever)_ | Nov 11, 2022 | [Ryan Coogler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Coogler) | | _[The Marvels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marvels)_ | Feb 17, 2023 | [Nia DaCosta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nia_DaCosta) | | _[Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe:_Phase_Four#Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_Vol._3_(2023))_ | May 5, 2023 | [James Gunn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gunn) | | _[Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man_and_the_Wasp:_Quantumania)_ | Jul 28, 2023 | [Peyton Reed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Reed) | | _[Fantastic Four](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe:_Phase_Four#Fantastic_Four)_ | TBA | Jon Watts | Post two will have the Disney + TV shows. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/4 "2021-10-19T16:52:15Z")
The Disney+ TV series: _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/4))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/4))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/4))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/4))_ This was also a test of doing a lot of polls in a single thread. Turns out each poll needs a unique name in the post at least. _example: [poll name=”TV4” type=number results=always min=1 max=10 step=1]_ _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/4))_ ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/5 "2021-10-19T17:00:44Z")
Huh. I know it’s early voting, but a remarkable number of my choices were less than a point from the average. Though clearly I liked WandaVision more than some of y’all. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/6 "2021-10-19T17:06:46Z")
On the TV series, I really enjoyed Wanda. But I love old sitcoms. (9) I loved the fact Falcon & The Snowman (I mean Winter Soldier) made two minor characters interesting and thought it was pretty well done. (7) I thought Loki was just about perfect and gave it a 10. I didn’t enjoy What If, though it concluded strong. (3) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/7 "2021-10-19T17:40:31Z")
So I wasn’t a big fan of the 1st 4 movies. I thought Iron Man was the best of the 4 and still mediocre at best. Thor is easily one of the most boring action films ever. The Hulk was just a mess. But I loved _[Captain America: The First Avenger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America:_The_First_Avenger)_ and _[Marvel’s The Avengers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Avengers_(2012_film))_ They captured everything great about Cap for his movie. It had a lot of funny lines. You can’t go wrong having Nazis as the bad guys in a movie. Avengers pulled these characters together really well. It turns out the insufferable Tony Stark plays great against Thor & Cap. Hulk’s “Puny God” line might be the best line in the entire Marvel Universe. It was just a really well done movie and a lesson in how to bring characters togethers. * * * **Iron Man 3** was terrible, **Thor** was too boring to sit through. **Captain America: The Winter Soldier** was a fun movie, not as good as the first, but a lot of fun. I had no expectations for _[Guardians of the Galaxy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_(film))_, a group I didn’t know existed. This movie ran on funny and reminded me of The Blues Brothers. I loved the characters and how they interacted. A very nice surprise. **Avengers: Age of Ultron** had no shortage of problems but was a fun ride. _[Ant-Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man_(film))_ is another than ran very well on funny. A fun ride and enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/8 "2021-10-19T18:03:29Z")
For the Phase One movies: - When _Iron Man_ was announced, my initial thoughts were: “Robert Downey Jr. is being perfectly cast for this role,” and “I give it 50/50 odds that Downey makes it through production without getting into trouble.” I loved the film, and Downey was, of course, brilliant as Tony Stark. - I was never a big _Hulk_ fan, and I’ve only seen the film once. It had a few good moments, but is otherwise not memorable for me. - _Iron Man 2_ was a bit of a let-down, after the first film, but it did introduce Black Widow, and Sam Rockwell was fun as Justin Hammer. - I probably rate _Thor_ significantly higher than most people, because Thor was always one of my favorite Marvel books, and because I thought it did a good job of capturing the feel of Walt Simonson’s run on the book. Also, we saw Tom Hiddleston as Loki for the first time, and he was another example of brilliant casting in the role. - I was skeptical about Chris Evans being cast as Steve Rogers in _Captain America: The First Avenger_, because I was mostly familiar with him as the immature punk, Johnny Storm, in the bad _Fantastic Four_ films. But, I was blown away by this one: Evans was just as perfect a fit in his role as Downey was, the supporting cast was also great (particularly Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter), and it gave us a great origin story, while also setting the stage for the overarching MCU story. - _Marvel’s The Avengers_ does an excellent job of giving every one of the heroes their story beats and moments in the spotlight, and takes great advantage of Hiddleston as the scenery-chewing villain of the piece. As a Whedon production, it has very witty writing, and memorable lines. And, Mark Ruffalo was, I think, an upgrade over Ed Norton as Bruce Banner/the Hulk. ---
**Author:** ![operacat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/73ab20/32.png) [@operacat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/operacat)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/9 "2021-10-19T19:21:42Z")
Looks like I am pretty close to the average in many, although I liked Wandavision, Black Widow, and Captain America: First Avenger a lot more than average, and Loki and Guardians 1 a lot less. Loki suffers by being the central character. He lost any traits of god of mischief and became Joe Protagonist Rescued by Love. Bleah. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/10 "2021-10-19T22:19:37Z")
I rated almost everything a couple points higher than the average. The only things I rated significantly lower than average were _Black Panther_ and _Captain Marvel_, which is making me question my politics. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > On the TV series, I really enjoyed Wanda. But I love old sitcoms. (9) > > I loved the fact Falcon & The Snowman (I mean Winter Soldier) made two minor characters interesting and thought it was pretty well done. (7) > > I thought Loki was just about perfect and gave it a 10. > > I didn’t enjoy What If, though it concluded strong. (3) Almost my ratings exactly, except for the last one - I gave _What If?_ a ten. I found the whole series delightful, and felt it executed on its premise perfectly. I still haven’t seen any of the Phase 4 movies. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/11 "2021-10-20T05:25:49Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Thor is easily one of the most boring action films ever. I didn’t approach it as an action film (because Brannagh), and I was not bored at all. Although _Captain America_ is the standout Phase 1 film for me. I clearly loved _Captain Marvel_ and _Black Panther_ way more than the average. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen the TV series or the last 2 movies. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/12 "2021-10-20T11:11:48Z")
Slightly surprised _Ant-Man & The Wasp_ didn’t rate higher. I thought it was an excellent film, one of Marvel’s best. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/13 "2021-10-20T14:58:07Z")
Same here. I get people might not be huge fans of the Ant-Man series, but Ant-Man 2 is clearly better than 1. Also not getting the hate for Iron Man 3. Lower than Iron Man 2? It’s such a fun movie. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/14 "2021-10-20T15:52:02Z")
Glad to see I’m not alone in my love for _Thor: Ragnarok_; the best Hulk movie ever made. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/15 "2021-10-20T15:57:22Z")
That was a fun movie, ran on comedy. It had Dark Galadriel (Hela) and of course the Immigrant Song Bridge fight scene. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/AtiwDQYSEBY/maxresdefault.jpg "Thor Epic bridge scene (Thor Ragnarok)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtiwDQYSEBY) Basically an awesome action/comedy. (I actually gave it a 10) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/16 "2021-10-20T16:01:38Z")
I also ran within a point of most choices on the films. Interesting consensus. Haven’t seen the TV shows which is no indictment on their quality, I just don’t watch much TV at home. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/17 "2021-10-20T18:52:33Z")
I found that a lot of my votes were pretty close to the poll averages, but where I was off, I was _really_ off: _Guardians of the Galaxy_ (+2.36 versus poll average) _Spider-Man: Homecoming_ (-2) _Black Panther_ (+2.13) _Captain Marvel_ (+2.95) _The Falcon and the Winter Soldier_ (+3.65) _Loki_ (-2.67) _What If…?_ (+1.52) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/18 "2021-10-25T17:49:47Z")
I’m genuinely surprised to see Ragnarok at the top of the polls. And I gave it a 10. Avengers is #2 which doesn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/19 "2021-10-25T18:26:49Z")
I recently rewatched Captain Marvel and…it was pretty much the same. Entertaining but nothing special, and it could have used some more punch and character-building for her. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/20 "2021-10-25T19:02:19Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I’m genuinely surprised to see Ragnarok at the top of the polls. We waited how many movies for “Immigrant Song?” That bridge scene made it all worth the wait. I think CA: Winter Soldier is a huge step up from CA: First Avenger and I like the latter movie a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/21 "2021-10-25T19:07:27Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I’m genuinely surprised to see Ragnarok at the top of the polls. And I gave it a 10. I’d put Endgame as #1, but Thor Ragnarok is probably my second favorite Marvel movie. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772/22 "2021-10-26T05:29:09Z")
My internal (subjective) ratings are more - I loved it - I really, really liked it a lot - Yeah, it’s ok - Thor - the Dark World I liked Ironman 3 better than a lot of you. But for the most part, I’m pretty much in line with the general consensus. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rate-the-marvel-cinematic-universe/952772.md?page=2)