# Ravenman

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 24, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776 "2008-01-24T03:37:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/61 "2008-01-25T15:15:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Siam Sam]  
Is this about gerbils?  
[/QUOTE]

Suppositories

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/62 "2008-01-26T00:00:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackmannii]  
This thread triggered an [ancient memory trace](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=319435&highlight=grienspace+doctor+jackmannii) of the only time I have ever been Pitted (well, _almost_ Pitted), by **The Flying Dutchman** posting as **grienspace**. I’m not sure what was more bizarre, my getting into a tiff with **Dr. Deth** over whether you could catch herpes from gym equipment, or **grienspace** taking umbrage over the affair based on a pair of hilarious false assumptions.  
And most importantly there is the Dutch treat - _which is not a treat at all!!_\*

\*to give proper credit, this was part of a mock anti-Dutch diatribe that appeared in National Lampoon years ago.  
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Again, please, do not let this jackass sully the name of the _true_ [Flying Dutchman](http://www.honuswagner.com/).

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/63 "2008-01-26T00:07:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Again, please, do not let this jackass sully the name of the _true_ [Flying Dutchman](http://www.honuswagner.com/).  
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Oh, [Van Der Decken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman) pre-dated Honus by quite a bit.

Some of my ancestors came from Ter Neuzen, so I feel a little kinship for that damned soul of legend.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/64 "2008-01-26T00:08:16Z")

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Yeah, but that’s not a person. 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/65 "2008-01-26T00:22:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Again, please, do not let this jackass sully the name of the _true_ [Flying Dutchman](http://www.honuswagner.com/).  
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Man, are you ever invested in Honus. Don’t get all hyper.

Now I must tell you that the real Flying Dutchman is not a person, but a famous imaginary ship, first written account around late 18th century. That would be around the time Anna Paulowna Romanova was born. The fact that I have to explain that to a history major baffles me.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/66 "2008-01-26T00:27:01Z")

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That you believe you have to explain anything to anyone proves what everybody in this thread is saying about you.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/67 "2008-01-26T00:52:34Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Frankly, I don’t remember encountering you much until recently. Maybe I have, but it just didn’t leave an impression. **If I have been calling you an idiot hundreds of times in the last several years, then I’m more perceptive than I give myself credit for.** I think it’s more likely that you’re full of shit, though. Maybe you’re confusing me with all the other people who have been calling you an idiot over the years.  
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:standing ovation:

That was a beautiful line.

Made my day.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/68 "2008-01-26T01:05:58Z")

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[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]  
Man, are you ever invested in Honus. Don’t get all hyper.

Now I must tell you that the real Flying Dutchman is not a person, but a famous imaginary ship, first written account around late 18th century. That would be around the time Anna Paulowna Romanova was born. The fact that I have to explain that to a history major baffles me.  
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No shit, dumbass. It’s kinda hard to disgrace a ship, though.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/69 "2008-01-26T01:08:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
No shit, dumbass. It’s kinda hard to disgrace a ship, though.  
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Give him time.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/70 "2008-01-27T03:18:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
He used to post as **grienspace**. Maybe you called him an idiot back then? He certainly provided plenty of opportunities.  
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For some reason I thought he was the one who used to be **Roger Thornhill**. Who is that now?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/71 "2008-01-27T03:48:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Talon Karrde]  
For some reason I thought he was the one who used to be **Roger Thornhill**. Who is that now?  
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**roger thornhill** did not change his name, he was banned.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/72 "2008-01-27T10:40:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Colibri]  
**roger thornhill** did not change his name, he was banned.  
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I thought **roger** used to be someone else before he was **roger** , though.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/73 "2008-01-27T18:53:29Z")

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Banned name!

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/74 "2008-01-27T21:10:55Z")

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**The Flying Dutchman** , you may actually own the emptiest skull on these Boards. That’s the charitable version; the other possibility is that you’re so ignorant of North American politics that you may actually qualify as a citizen of Switzerland. In which case you should stick to neutrality and keep your nose out of political discussions which are clearly outside of your ability to comprehend. (I would check into that if I were you, BTW; I hear the chocolate is excellent.)

Congratulations on having achieved the lamest Pitting in at least several days, BTW, which is quite an achievement in its own fucked-up way. OTOH:

> [@The Flying Dutchman](#):
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> Lame.

This user/post combination may actually be the funniest thing since **Master Wang-Ka** ’s Jehovah Witness story.

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> > [@The Flying Dutchman](#):
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> > You’ve been calling me and idiot at least a hundred times over the past several years and its now escalating to twice per post.
> 
> Well, but, you are an idiot.

No, he’s _and_ idiot. The difference is subtle but (apparently) important.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Again, please, do not let this jackass sully the name of the true Flying Dutchman.

We got the point one page ago, Basement Queen. Please come up with something original or go assert your royal presence somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/75 "2008-01-28T00:44:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]

We got the point one page ago, Basement Queen. Please come up with something original or go assert your royal presence somewhere else.  
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Wake me up when you have a new insult, mmmkay?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/76 "2008-01-28T08:03:40Z")

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[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]  
Man, are you ever invested in Honus. Don’t get all hyper.

Now I must tell you that the real Flying Dutchman is not a person, but a famous imaginary ship, first written account around late 18th century. That would be around the time Anna Paulowna Romanova was born. The fact that I have to explain that to a history major baffles me.  
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Why would a historian be expected to possess any expertise about imaginary things?

😕

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/77 "2008-01-28T16:08:35Z")

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So, **Dutch** , how’s this pitting working out for you? Is it everything you hoped it would be?

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/78 "2008-01-28T19:57:51Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Wake me up when you have a new insult, mmmkay?

Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb.

Hey, does anyone else like Ty Cobb? Ty fuckin’ Cobb!

Ty Cobb

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/79 "2008-01-28T20:05:46Z")

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There comes a point where neither party ends up sounding sane. Sometimes, it’s better to not respond at all.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ravenman/434776/80 "2008-01-28T21:52:37Z")

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I’m personally of the “stay sane inside insanity” school of thought. 🙂

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