# Ray Donovan Season 2 \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 28, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273 "2014-07-28T20:12:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/21 "2014-08-25T16:10:18Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > I think Abby was trying to compensate for feeling guilty about forgetting Conor’s birthday by going to the best cake shop in town. You’re probably right. Both parents really failed by forgetting their son’s birthday. BTW, they’ve mostly dropped the more interesting aspect of the show; Ray cleaning up the messes of Hollywood elite. That was the part of the show that was a little bit interesting (as sort of a voyeuristic look at Hollywood excess). ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/22 "2014-08-25T16:39:52Z")
Every time I see Liev Schreiber, I can’t help but think they could switch his head with a block of cement and no one would notice the difference. Am I being unfair? ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/23 "2014-08-26T16:17:12Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > Did Sherilyn Fenn actually gain weight for this role, or has she just let herself go? She’s 50 and probably went from 105 to 108 up to 120 to 123 naturally. If she firmed up, she would look smaller. She’s not huge, just fleshy. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/24 "2014-08-26T17:30:18Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > 123 I could believe that her weight is those three digits, but not in that order. Maybe 213. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/25 "2014-08-27T22:48:44Z")
> [@LVBoPeep](#): > > That was an intense episode… Directed by Liev Schreiber… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/26 "2014-09-02T03:19:14Z")
This week’s episode didn’t have the dysfunctional, “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” feel of last week’s, but it was great nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/27 "2014-09-02T03:31:12Z")
Helluva finish… ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/28 "2014-09-02T03:41:50Z")
The whole dispute between Rekon and Cookie over Marvin was really icky. They didn’t talk about him in child custody terms, but terms of ownership. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/29 "2014-09-02T04:27:08Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The whole dispute between Rekon and Cookie over Marvin was really icky. They didn’t talk about him in child custody terms, but terms of ownership. That’s certainly true with Lee Drexler, Cookie and Ray but I thought Re-Kon had real affection for him. I thought those two, Marvin and Re-Kon were the most sympathetic of the characters so probably I should have seen that coming :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/30 "2014-09-02T13:33:29Z")
Couldn’t find it on TVTropes, but isn’t it a cliche that right after a character - typically sitting in a car - (Rekon in this case) mentions how everything is peachy-keen in the world now and has a completely content look on their face, that they’re gunned down or involved in a horrible car crash in the next instant? ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/31 "2014-09-02T15:14:20Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I could believe that her weight is those three digits, but not in that order. Maybe 213. She would have to eat another cast member to weigh 213. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/32 "2014-09-02T15:36:53Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > She would have to eat another cast member to weigh 213. Yeah, it’s a pretty sad indictment of the way TV distorts some people’s expectations that anyone could believe that 5’4" Sherilyn Fenn weighs over 200 pounds just because she’s a bit chunkier than she was 25 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/33 "2014-09-02T16:26:08Z")
She looks 200+ pounds to me in the following clip, but I suppose it could be just a bad look from the lingerie she’s wearing. Spoiled because this is a link to the swingers sex scene, with nudity from Andrea Bogart:[Andrea Bogart, Sherlyn Fenn, Brooke Smith - Ray Donovan](http://xhamster.com/movies/3418640/andrea_bogart_sherlyn_fenn_brooke_smith_ray_donovan.html)Specifically, at 21 seconds and again at 1:01. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/34 "2014-09-02T20:03:08Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > Couldn’t find it on TVTropes, but isn’t it a cliche that right after a character - typically sitting in a car - (Rekon in this case) mentions how everything is peachy-keen in the world now and has a completely content look on their face, that they’re gunned down or involved in a horrible car crash in the next instant? I knew instantly that they were going to die, and when Ray’s daughter laid down in the back seat it was confirmation. They could have directed that scene so much better. I’m also wondering if Ray’s Mercedes CLS 550 belongs to one of the show’s Producers. There’s so many loving, lingering shots of that car in every episode that it’s comical. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/35 "2014-09-02T20:05:18Z")
More likely a sponsored product placement. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/36 "2014-09-02T20:11:25Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > Couldn’t find it on TVTropes, but isn’t it a cliche that right after a character - typically sitting in a car - (Rekon in this case) mentions how everything is peachy-keen in the world now and has a completely content look on their face, that they’re gunned down or involved in a horrible car crash in the next instant? Reminds of one of my very favorite Sopranos scenes… [Depressed Tony](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdvjMbCawkk) ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/37 "2014-09-02T23:31:00Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > More likely a sponsored product placement. Heh - no I mean that’s the producer’s actual car. It’s not like there’s other Mercedes all over the place, (none of the other characters have one), just that one make and model. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/38 "2014-09-02T23:37:20Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > Heh - no I mean that’s the producer’s actual car. It’s not like there’s other Mercedes all over the place, (none of the other characters have one), just that one make and model. But that’s all they need: one car, featured prominently. I’m with **Ellis Dee** on this. I reckon that Mercedes provides the car, and perhaps some financial consideration, on the understanding that the car will be the main form of transportation for the show’s main character, and that it will appear in X number of scenes over the course of the season. I still don’t think that Sherilynn Fenn looks anywhere near 200 pounds, though, even in those scenes that **Ellis Dee** posted. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/39 "2014-09-03T20:27:34Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > I knew instantly that they were going to die, and when Ray’s daughter laid down in the back seat it was confirmation. They could have directed that scene so much better. Oh, yes. It’s that sort of thing (the blatant contrivances) that keep this show from being mentioned in the ranks of the ‘new golden age of television drama.’ Just bad: the writing _and_ the direction. I’m not saying it’s the worst show on TV…it’s very far from that. But it’s frustrating to see the mistakes made, given the other assets the show has (good cast; decent budget; workable premise, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273/40 "2014-09-30T05:50:47Z")
The storylines on this show are just TOO implausible. They belie belief. Very bad season 2. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-donovan-season-2-spoilers/694273.md?page=3)