# Re-cast "Blazing Saddles" using today's actors

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**Created:** [January 25, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689 "2014-01-25T14:30:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/1 "2014-01-25T14:30:58Z")

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In the recent thread [What’s your favorite Mel Brooks movie?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=714011) [Gagundathar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17045810&postcount=24) said

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> It was a tie between Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein until I realized that there is no way in the green earth that Blazing Saddles could ever be made today. So my vote went to Blazing Saddles.

to which [I replied](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17045836&postcount=25)

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> Excellent point. Quentin Tarantino might try but has he had any real success at comedy?
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> But you know what might be a fun idea: recast Blazing Saddles from today’s crop of actors.
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> Might even make a fun thread!

So here we are!

Here’s the first page of the cast list:

Cleavon Little … Bart  
Gene Wilder … Jim  
Slim Pickens … Taggart  
Harvey Korman … Hedley Lamarr  
Madeline Kahn … Lili Von Shtupp  
Mel Brooks … Governor William J. Lepetomane / Indian Chief  
Burton Gilliam … Lyle  
Alex Karras … Mongo  
David Huddleston … Olson Johnson  
Liam Dunn … Rev. Johnson  
John Hillerman … Howard Johnson  
George Furth … Van Johnson  
Jack Starrett … Gabby Johnson (as Claude Ennis Starrett Jr.)  
Carol Arthur … Harriett Johnson  
Richard Collier … Dr. Sam Johnson

Cast the ones you have a good feel for and skip the others.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/2 "2014-01-25T15:50:30Z")

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Going with a sort of Tarantino/Coen theme…  
Samuel L. Jackson … Bart  
John Travolta … Jim  
Larry the Cable Guy … Taggart  
George Clooney … Hedley Lamarr  
Uma Thurman … Lili Von Shtupp  
Jeff Bridges … Governor William J. Lepetomane / Indian Chief  
John Goodman … Mongo  
Steve Buscemi … Olson Johnson  
Josh Hartnett … Rev. Johnson  
William H. Macy … Howard Johnson

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/3 "2014-01-25T15:52:19Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Jeff Bridges … Governor William J. Lepetomane / Indian Chief

Christoph Waltz.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/4 "2014-01-25T16:15:34Z")

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> There is no way in the green earth that Blazing Saddles could ever be made today.

Why does this idiotic notion keep coming up? We actually just had this conversation a few months ago and the general consensus is that the people who say it either stopped watching movies in 1979 or are being willfully ignorant of modern entertainment:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=700030&highlight=blazing+saddles](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=700030&highlight=blazing+saddles)

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/5 "2014-01-25T17:14:45Z")

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What current comedic black actors can fill a role thought for Richard Pryor? Maybe Chris Rock? Dave Chapelle? Either Key OR Peele? Definitely not Eddie Murphy… his cred as a Pryor-sized comedian died a few years back, even if he still looks young.

Maybe go younger and get Donald Glover.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/6 "2014-01-25T17:35:32Z")

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Kevin Hart would be great.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/7 "2014-01-25T17:43:43Z")

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How about Dule Hill?

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**Author:** ![NeonMadman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58f4c7/32.png) [@NeonMadman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NeonMadman)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/8 "2014-01-25T17:50:13Z")

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IMHO, _Blazing Saddles_ is one of those near-perfect movies that was done almost perfectly the first time, and remaking it would only spoil it. Like _Casablanca_, or _Citizen Kane_, or _The Godfather_. Not that it necessarily falls into the “Great Cinema” class as those others do, but I can’t imagine a remake that would live up to the original.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/9 "2014-01-25T17:58:47Z")

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> [@NeonMadman](#):
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> IMHO, _Blazing Saddles_ is one of those near-perfect movies that was done almost perfectly the first time, and remaking it would only spoil it. Like _Casablanca_, or _Citizen Kane_, or _The Godfather_. Not that it necessarily falls into the “Great Cinema” class as those others do, but I can’t imagine a remake that would live up to the original.

In my mind that’s the main point to this thread! 🙂

Even if you could pick an active actor for one or a few roles it would be close to impossible to produce enough of a cast to pull off what Brooks did.

Big example: who could you find to replace Basie’s band?

One of the sterling bits is that thing with Dom DeLuise at the end. Who could pull that off today?

I’ve been mulling the two main characters (Cleavon and Gene) and just can’t make anybody working today get even close. And there will never be another Slim Pickens!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/10 "2014-01-25T18:03:26Z")

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I mentioned this thread to Madame Pepperwinkle, and her immediate thought was that Bart wouldn’t be black, he’d be ostentatiously gay. Blazing!

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/11 "2014-01-25T18:07:25Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I mentioned this thread to Madame Pepperwinkle, and her immediate thought was that Bart wouldn’t be black, he’d be ostentatiously gay. Blazing!

Sharp lady! Flaming Saddles?

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Why does this idiotic notion keep coming up? We actually just had this conversation a few months ago and the general consensus is that the people who say it either stopped watching movies in 1979 or are being willfully ignorant of modern entertainment:
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=700030&highlight=blazing+saddles](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=700030&highlight=blazing+saddles)

I can’t provide a cite, but in a fairly recent (within the last 10 years or so)interview Mel Brooks said _he_ couldn’t have made Blazing Saddles in the current environment. He further said that the only way he got BS made was his contract with Warner Brothers gave him complete editorial control over the film.

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I think Don Cheadle would work as Bart.

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> I’ve been mulling the two main characters (Cleavon and Gene) and just can’t make anybody working today get even close.

Dwayne Johnson and Robert Downey Jr?

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Dwayne Johnson and Robert Downey Jr?

That would be interesting! But I don’t know if Dwayne is “black” enough for the role. Dule Hill certainly has the facial expression talent; maybe him and James Roday as Jim?

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/16 "2014-01-25T21:50:33Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I think Don Cheadle would work as Bart.

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Dwayne Johnson and Robert Downey Jr?

> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> That would be interesting! But I don’t know if Dwayne is “black” enough for the role. Dule Hill certainly has the facial expression talent; maybe him and James Roday as Jim?

The Rock would surely make for a different take on the movie! I really like what Cheadle can do with roles of varying types so thinking of him with Downey isn’t all that hard to see. I have to confess ignorance on Roday so he might work. Dule Hill was great on _The West Wing_ but I haven’t seen him to know it since then.

I’m starting to think I’d have to see the remake just to learn who some of the younger actors are. Unless I see them in small roles on TV shows I watch, it’s unlikely I’d see them otherwise.

What about casting against type just to see what might happen and go with [Ben Foster](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004936/?ref_=nv_sr_1) for Gene’s role? He and Cheadle would at least be cool!

Is there anybody who could do Harvey Korman’s role?

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> One of the sterling bits is that thing with Dom DeLuise at the end. Who could pull that off today?

The guy from Modern Family (ironically, the straight actor who plays Cam) would be perfect.

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Dule Hill certainly has the facial expression talent; maybe him and James Roday as Jim?

I think you’ve just written an episode of Psych!

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/19 "2014-01-25T22:37:18Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Is there anybody who could do Harvey Korman’s role?

John Lithgow.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-blazing-saddles-using-todays-actors/679689/20 "2014-01-25T22:43:35Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> John Lithgow.

Ought to be in the running at least. He can do anything!

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