# Re-cast Lord of the Rings.  Badly.

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**Created:** [August 23, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-lord-of-the-rings-badly/666974 "2013-08-23T15:35:35Z")\
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Okay, let’s see…

First, the Fellowship:  
Gandalf - French Stewart  
Aragorn - Jason Alexander  
Boromir - Randy “Macho Man” Savage  
Legolas - Jeff Garlin  
Gimli - Justin Timberlake  
Frodo - Djimon Hounsou  
Sam - Katt Williams  
Merry - Vin Diesel  
Pippin - Jason Statham

Elrond - Ray Romano  
Galadriel - Melissa McCarthy  
Arwen - Victoria Jackson

Theoden - Michael Cera  
Denethor - Paul Reubens

And one that I think would be truly awesome:  
Gollum - Al Pacino

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Stars of Yesteryear, 1940s version…

Bilbo - Gregory Peck  
Gandalf - Gary Cooper  
Aragorn - John Wayne  
Boromir - Cary Grant  
Legolas - Errol Flynn  
Gimli - Edward G. Robinson  
Frodo - Jimmy Stewart (“Why, look-ee here Mr. Gandalf, now you know I don’t want to go off chasin’ after some confangled ring thingy! Why, M-Merry would throw a fit!”)  
Elrond - Humphrey Bogart  
Arwen - Ingrid Bergman\*  
Galadriel - Judy Holliday  
Denethor - Lon Chaney Jr.  
Theoden - Sir Lawrence Olivier  
Sauromon - James Cagney\*\*  
Gollum - Peter Lorre

\*… _rowr_…  
\*\* technically, Christopher Lee could have been cast in a late-1940’s version of LOTR, but he already had his chance.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Stars of Yesteryear, 1940s version…  
> …  
> Gollum - Peter Lorre  
> …

Then again, Lorre would have been PERFECT for Grima Wormtongue. He practically built his entire career out of playing the part…

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True. Perhaps Lon Chaney Jr. as Gollum and Orson Welles as Denethor, with Peter Lorre playing Grima Wormtongue.

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The cast of M.A.S.H. (TV version, later years)

I will specify Alan Alda as Sauron. The rest, fit in as you will.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-lord-of-the-rings-badly/666974/26 "2013-08-23T21:07:04Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> The cast of M.A.S.H. (TV version, later years)
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> I will specify Alan Alda as Sauron. The rest, fit in as you will.

Harry Morgan would obviously have to be Gandalf  
David Ogden Stiers as Gimli and William Christopher as Legolas  
Gary Burghoff as Frodo  
Jamie Farr as Sam  
Mike Farrell as Aragorn  
Loretta Swit as [del]all[/del] both of the female characters  
Wayne Rogers as Boromir, McLean Stevenson as Theoden, and Larry Linville as Wormtongue - they all get killed off

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Every character played by Eddie Murphy, Klumps-style.

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> [@nicky](#):
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> Btw Anyone else think Bean and Mortensen were cast the wrong way round ?

I’d be curious why you’d think this. Based on other films I’ve seen those guys in Bean’s acting style is naturally bold, he’s a guy I could actually see slaughtering thousands of orcs in open battle and then stealth bragging: “I couldn’t have slaughtered those thousands of orcs had the rest of my men not kept the enemy’s 100 elite guard at bay.” Mortensen, on the other hand, has a more sneaky/stealthy demeanor. Not in a slimy way, but understated–like someone who has the personal charisma to bend the will of thousands of battle-hardend warriors but really prefers trusting his life only to his own abilities.

TLDR: Bean can yell clearly from his diaphragm like a combat leader (Osgiliath), Mortensen’s uvula gets in the way like someone who is less accustomed to wanting to be heard from quite a long way away.

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> I actually think Patton Oswalt could pull off Gimli.
> 
> But these couldn’t:  
> Gandalf - Gilbert Gottfried  
> Gollum - William Shatner  
> Aragorn - Will Smith  
> Frodo - Manute Bol  
> Bilbo - Yao Ming  
> Merry - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar  
> Pippin - Scottie Pippen 😃  
> Gimli - Gwyneth Paltrow  
> Elrond - Danny DeVito  
> Galadriel - Snooki  
> Arwen - Honey Boo Boo  
> Legolas - Ben Stiller

Forgot one!  
Samwise - Christopher Walken

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-lord-of-the-rings-badly/666974/30 "2013-08-24T02:00:40Z")

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Gandalf – Jeff Bridges (in his “Big Lebowski” persona)  
Aragorn – Nick Nolte  
Gollum – Sylvester Stallone  
Frodo – Bryan Cranston  
Sam – Leonardo di Caprio  
Pippin – Kevin Costner  
Merry – Aston Kutcher  
Elrond – Brad Pitt  
Galadriel – Taylor Schilling  
Arwen – Kate Mulgrew  
Gimli – Jason Biggs  
Legolas – Bruce Campbell  
Saruman – Bob Odenkirk  
Boromir – Mickey O’Rourke  
Theoden – John Goodman  
Denethor – Stephen Colbert  
Faramir – John Turturro

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cast-lord-of-the-rings-badly/666974/31 "2013-08-24T04:50:31Z")

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> [@nicky](#):
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> Btw Anyone else think Bean and Mortensen were cast the wrong way round ?

Nope. Both are perfect for the roles they did play.

Frodo: Kiefer Sutherland  
Sam: Johnny Depp  
Aragorn: John Goodman  
Legolas: Danny DeVito  
Gimli:Alexander Skarsgård

Gandalf: Steven Wright

Galadriel: Roseanne  
Arwen: Nobody (she doesn’t appear in the book. 😉 )

Gollum: George Clooney

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Steven Seagal as Bilbo  
Chuck Norris as Frodo

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Some additions to my original list;

Saruman - Robin Williams  
Treebeard - Corey Feldman  
Grima Wormtongue - Rick Moranis  
Eowyn - Grace Park  
Eomer - Dwayne Johnson  
Faramir - Tom Felton

Samwise Gamgee - Jayden Smith

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Frodo: Chevy Chase  
Treebeard: Christopher Walken (“The…Ents ah…going…to woah.”)  
Arwen: Sidibe Gabourney  
Sauroman: Woody Allen  
Gimli: Kareem Abdul Jabbar  
Sam: Gilbert Gottfried  
Strider: Rick Moranis

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> [@cormac262](#):
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> So to re-cast LOTR, you may NOT use:
> 
> - Rosie O’Donnell
> - Ahhnold

I think Ahhnold would make a great Stone Troll, and Rosie could be pretty good as Shelob (although Roseanne would be better).

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Gollum - William Shatner  
> Samwise - Christopher Walken

Okay, now I’m imagining the argument scenes between these two characters.

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I did Lord of the Rings Re-Imagined back in 2012 or so. Here is a link to my comic strip of the cast:

> **[Lord of the Rings Reimagined by caerbran on DeviantArt](https://www.deviantart.com/caerbran/art/Lord-of-the-Rings-Reimagined-301853136)**

🙂

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Gandalf - Bob Denver  
Aragorn - Henry Winkler  
Legolas - Jar Jar Binks (most of what Legolas does ic CGI, so go the whole way)  
Frodo - Bob Hope  
Sam - John Ratzenberger  
Arwen - Roseanne Barr  
Saruman - Rupert Grint

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Forgot one!  
> Samwise - Christopher Walken

I can just see that scene: “Ahhhh… Mr. Frodo. Sir… I know a… Fine place that you…Can hide the ring! It’s the same place… Mr Bilbo… Kept his fathers watch… When he was captured by… The Orcs.”

Also:

Legolas: Yul Brynner

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Feel free to adjust and advise–

Gandalf - Graham Chapman  
Aragorn - John Cleese  
Boromir - Terry Jones  
Legolas - Eric Idle  
Gimli - Michael Palin  
Frodo - Simon Pegg  
Sam - Nick Frost  
Merry - Rowan Atkinson  
Pippin - Tony (Baldrick) Robinson

Elrond - Hugh Laurie  
Galadriel - Prunella Scales  
Arwen - Carol (Zoot) Cleveland

Theoden - Brian Blessed  
Eowyn - Connie Booth

Saruman - Terry Gilliam

Gollum - Andrew (Manuel) Sachs

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