# Re: Coldfire projects his own shortcomings onto me

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 17, 2002, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638 "2002-05-17T23:49:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/21 "2002-05-18T10:52:07Z")

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> No, The Ryan, those were examples of humour. I’m not offended that you couldn’t tell the difference - not surprised, either. I should forewarn you that should you want to debate this matter further, it will have to be done in the Pit.

This - apparently - is the example of **Coldie** “abusing” his mod powers.

You big, nasty, fascist, Nazi, mod **Coldie**. We hereby demand that you say 10 “hail Cecils” or surrender the Netherlands to the control of **The Ryan** immediately.

any implied referenced to dykes or clogs in this post are purely incidental

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**Author:** ![ScoobyTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@ScoobyTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScoobyTX)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/22 "2002-05-18T15:40:10Z")

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Hmm… **Coldfire** basically reiterated **TubaDiva** ’s admonition, after **The Ryan** responded to **Tuba** ’s admonition in the wrong forum- even when **Tuba** _explicitly_ told him to “take it elsewhere.”

You would think that someone with over 2500 posts would know the proper forum for bitching about staff actions.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/23 "2002-05-18T16:24:51Z")

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The Ryan, FWIW, here are the thoughts that went through my head as I was reading the thread, and mentioning the posts that you (in the ATMB thread) compared to yours:

“wring said that it was it was a mistake to let her have a life.” - I read that and thought it was a joke.  
“SPOOFE implied that she was a computer program, and that Manhattan was a Nazi Fascist Moderator.” - I read that and thought it was a joke.  
“minty green accused her of trying to extort a coffee mug.” - I read that and thought it was a joke.  
“bibliophage made disparaging remarks about her math skills.” - I read that and thought it was a joke.

The Ryan’s post - I read that and my first thought was “What is The Ryan talking about? Is he mad at JillGat or upset about bannings?”

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/24 "2002-05-18T16:55:02Z")

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Me, I read it and was surprised **The Ryan** had a sense of humor. I was not at all surprised when others thought that his post was a dig. And then I was surprised all over again when **The Ryan** took exception to **Coldie’s** post and not **Tuba’s**. I wasn’t surprised about **The Ryan’s** decision to open up a Pit thread. I am surprised that **The Ryan** hasn’t come back to this thread claiming his victory yet. I will not be surprised if he does do this by quoting everyone and their great grandfather’s sister’s long-lost german shepard in tiny, lost-all-meaning-from-context peices.

All in all, a very emotional rollercoaster ride of an epic stretched across multiple threads and fora. Can’t wait for the movie.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/25 "2002-05-18T17:59:22Z")

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**Ryan** is just not that bad of a guy. His post in **Scylla** ’s “remediation” thread was a killer!

I also thought **Ryan** was joking when I read it. And it was a pretty good one, too, IMNSHO.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/26 "2002-05-18T18:16:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Byzantine \*  
> \*\*You get so set in your pants there isn’t room for your dick \*\*

Bwaaaaaaaaaaa! Dear Lord!

I assumed that TR was trying to make a joke, but it wasn’t a good try. Then again, I seem to recall he’s had chronic “moderator hate” in the past, so if I were a mod I would not be cutting him much slack.

**Coldie** , as usual your response was measured, articulate, clear and a joy to read. I wish more posts were like that.

What the… ouch… hey… could somebody please help me unstick my lips from **Coldfire’s** ass? 😃

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/27 "2002-05-18T18:48:13Z")

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It’s a shame to see things get out of hand over the ambiguousness and difference of interpretation of e-text. Like, ironically, the dear **wring** and myself almost had happen once. Thankfully she is a smart and classy lady who was more interested in determining my true meaning, rather than just reacting violently (like I often do).

Stepping away from the Board as I have has emphasized the need for clarity in communication. I’m no longer in the “in” crowd, or party to a multitude of inside jokes anymore, or interpersonal conflicts, so I have to be extra careful when commenting on some issues. And even then I fail sometimes.

I think that the post in ATMB was unclear, and did not seem to be a joke - at first reading. And I think **Coldfire** has done everything honor demands by his apology and explaining, and you should just let it rest. I don’t think the Staff goes out of their way to be offended or prissy, so it only makes sense to believe what **Coldfire** and others say - that they did mistakingly interpret it as a dig - and just chalk it up to poor communication.

Emoticons are silly, but also very useful for conveying tone.

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/28 "2002-05-18T19:21:34Z")

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“When the other shoe drops, will it be a clog or a spiky stilletto heel? Find out in the next exciting episode of ‘TheRyansHope’!”

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**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/29 "2002-05-18T19:51:01Z")

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There are people who do not have any sense of humor at all. And typically they don’t know it.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/30 "2002-05-19T05:46:43Z")

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Ooo, what a shock - no one understood **The Ryan**. I may faint.

:rolleyes:

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/31 "2002-05-19T13:12:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DPWhite \*  
> \*\*There are people who do not have any sense of humor at all. And typically they don’t know it. \*\*

[Cornholio] ARE YOU THREATENING ME?? [/Cornholio]

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/32 "2002-05-19T15:03:31Z")

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oh my GOD!!! ha ha HA!

that was so fucking funny, **the ryan**!!

don’t you all get it? it’s because jill bans people! ha ha HA!!! oh look, she’s banned someone else! what a banning type mod she is!

oh look out, she’ll ban us all next!

**the ryan** , you truly are a comic genius. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/33 "2002-05-19T18:06:11Z")

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More like an idiot savant.

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/34 "2002-05-19T21:51:11Z")

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I don’t believe **TheRyan** ’s comment was intended to be a joke at all.

I believe it _was_ intended to be a mean-spirited jab at **Jill** and the rest of the staff members contributing to that thread. **TheRyan** saw an opportunity to fling an insult that he could then turn to his advantage when the e-vil staff members “misunderstood” his “joke”.

It was a no-lose situation for him. If they took it as a joke he’d be seen as a swell guy. If they took it as an insult, they would respond critically. He would then cry persecution of the poor, misunderstood **TheRyan**.

I understand you, **TheRyan**. And I don’t like you.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/35 "2002-05-19T22:29:15Z")

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Anthracite:

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> And I think Coldfire has done everything honor demands by his apology and explaining, and you should just let it rest.

Yes, I am no longer angry at Coldfire. I’m not sure what you mean by “let it rest”. If you mean to not post in this thread anymore, then I disagree.

EJsGirl

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> Then again, I seem to recall he’s had chronic “moderator hate” in the past

Huh?

Kamandi:

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> I understand you, TheRyan.

No, you don’t. You don’t understand me, and I don’t understand you. At least one of is honest enough to admit that.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/36 "2002-05-19T23:01:23Z")

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My .02c. TheRyan may be an argumentative twerp who annoys the fuck outta me with his endless word-parsing and out-of-context quotes, but he’s (to the best of my knowlege) never been one of those posters who regularly goes after the mods.

I don’t think his comment was even remotely funny, but I believe that he meant it as humor, not sniping.

Fenris

PS: **The Ryan** : The polite response to **Coldfire** is “I accept your apology. Thanks and no hard feelings.”, not an offhanded comment to another poster. If someone does you the courtesy of apologizing, it’s petty to not accept (or reject) the apology directly…

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2002, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-coldfire-projects-his-own-shortcomings-onto-me/109638/37 "2002-05-19T23:10:05Z")

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Are you saying my conclusion is incorrect? That you _did_ mean your comment as a completely innocent joke? You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t believe you.

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