# Re Cosby horribleness - What were these unknown models expectations in dinners/dates w/ Cosby? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 24, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049 "2015-07-24T13:32:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/41 "2015-07-26T05:33:13Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > …he admitted that the he got the quaaludes from someone who knew they were not for him. So he wasn’t taking them. He was lucid, they were not. That is really unusual in a “let’s do drugs to make sex better” situation. I knew there was something about that argument that stank. ---
**Author:** ![MmeRose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MmeRose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MmeRose)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/42 "2015-07-26T11:42:35Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Several of his victims reported being offered something for a headache, or for nerves. If someone offers you an aspirin and gives you qualudes, they comit a crime, I’m pretty sure. So much for the old “I have a headache” excuse. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/43 "2015-07-28T00:19:43Z")
And now there’s a [big cover story](http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html) in New York Magazine, with excerpts from interviews with 35 of the now 47 victims, with some of them saying there are others. And a lot more damning stuff about stuff being ignored. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/44 "2015-07-28T08:05:35Z")
That was a great article. I would hope that now we can stop discussing whether he is guilty or not: He is obviously guilty. A discussion I would like to have is that we should come after people other than him. That casting agency for instance, if it still exists. His wife is almost certainly in on it. His friend, the fellow rapist. I would also like to know whether there is some footage from the 1971 Louisa Moritz Tonight show. Based on her description it sounds like he would’ve still had an erection onstage. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/45 "2015-07-28T08:38:11Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And now there’s a [big cover story](http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html) in New York Magazine, with excerpts from interviews with 35 of the now 47 victims, with some of them saying there are others. > > And a lot more damning stuff about stuff being ignored. Anybody notice how all the women are caucasian? Did he only go after white women? Are they his only accusers? ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/46 "2015-07-28T08:41:02Z")
Yes I have noticed that previously. It seems likely to me that he only went after white women. He seemed to have a type and a mode of operation. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/47 "2015-07-28T22:26:52Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Anybody notice how all the women are caucasian? > > Did he only go after white women? > Are they his only accusers? Did you look at the linked article? They are NOT all white, Beverly Johnson being the most famous example. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/48 "2015-07-29T13:32:03Z")
Kaya Thompson also does not look white. (Reading the article now). The article is even more distressing. I am 100% convinced Cosby is a rapist. ETA: Here is part of Heidi Thomas’ story and what she was told: “My agent said we’ve been contacted by a really, really big person in the entertainment industry who’s interested in mentoring promising young talent. I find out it’s Bill Cosby. I had the understanding I was going to be receiving private acting coaching from him. This was the opportunity of a lifetime. A driver would pick me up, my agent was paying for it. That made it all very, very professional." ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049/49 "2015-07-29T15:00:54Z")
\*\*even sven \*\*has provided a very good set of the “what were they thinking?” possibilities - as mentioned earlier by **TriPolar** , with their expectation that they could just walk away if it got too weird. > [@BigT](#): > > Even if they willingly took the drugs, the state they would be in afterwards would be rather intoxicated, and would likely still make it rape. > > If you read the deposition, it reads almost entirely like someone who is admitting as much as he can for evidence sake, but avoiding saying it was non-consensual. There’s no reason he should be able to say “I don’t know” about being in condition to consent. > > Plus there’s the fact he admitted that the he got the quaaludes from someone who knew they were not for him. So he wasn’t taking them. He was lucid, they were not. That is really unusual in a “let’s do drugs to make sex better” situation. Right - “let’s take a hit of this” is usually a mutual endeavor. And in any case, previously taking the intoxicant voluntarily does not make you less incapacitated _at the time when the assault happens_. This, it speaks to a vision of getting off on “I have you under my power, babe” – and he had them “under” his power in more ways than one since his standing in the industry and in public opinion put them at an extreme disadvantage in seeking redress. Cos is done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-cosby-horribleness-what-were-these-unknown-models-expectations-in-dinners-dates-w-cosby/726049.md?page=2)