# Re-Focused essay on suicidality **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 14, 2014, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068 "2014-07-14T13:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ecmandu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Ecmandu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ecmandu)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/81 "2014-07-15T16:13:37Z")
> [@simster](#): > > none of those things are fact - > > First off - define “nice guy” - what is this “code” ? where is it stored? Nice guy code is about preventing the subliminal message that women want sexually what they complain about. Nice guys by the hundreds of millions have seen women complain about some guy being a complete asshole and then having sex with them over their friend who is kind and has a good ear and is well functioning. The kind of guys who really get laid are the guys who shit on women by calling them stupid worthless whores… often behind their backs… often straight to their faces. Sometimes the nice guys tattle on these men, by saying that these men call them stupid worthless whores, and even worse… and the women have an interesting way of dealing with this tattling… they tell those men, those men treat the tattler as a betrayer and women have sex with the bullies instead of the guys who try to set them straight. They know that this raises the sexual aggression of males and they hold the space for women to make better decisions to protect their gender from sexual harassment. Nice guy code is to protect women from sexual harassment… and it works… it’s just that women are psychopaths, so it doesn’t matter, hence the suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/82 "2014-07-15T16:27:30Z")
> [@Ecmandu](#): > > Actually… everything I said is a **fact**. > > There is high stratification for sexual variety on the male side and low sexual stratification for women on the female side… meaning that a very small percentage of men receive almost all of the sexual variety in this species, and women, from that very small percentage of men receive all the sexual variety they want. > > This is a **fact** , this is not a myth. > > The nice guy code is a **fact** … all nice guys observe this code, and nice guys don’t get sex. > > At a very minimum, a non-expert will say to women that nice guys get laid less than more brutish men, jerks as they call them, and women will tag these men as surrogate gay best friends to set an example to the rest of the men that you cannot point out the female denial system without severe consequences. > > This is what causes the suicide… and you all have been sexually, emotionally and socially blackmailed by the women. > > Everything I’m telling you is a **fact**. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. There’s never been a more perfect time to use that quote. ---
**Author:** ![Ecmandu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Ecmandu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ecmandu)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/83 "2014-07-15T16:28:48Z")
> [@Ecmandu](#): > > Nice guy code is about preventing the subliminal message that women want sexually what they complain about. Nice guys by the hundreds of millions have seen women complain about some guy being a complete asshole and then having sex with them over their friend who is kind and has a good ear and is well functioning. > > The kind of guys who really get laid are the guys who shit on women by calling them stupid worthless whores… often behind their backs… often straight to their faces. Sometimes the nice guys tattle on these men, by saying that these men call them stupid worthless whores, and even worse… and the women have an interesting way of dealing with this tattling… they tell those men, those men treat the tattler as a betrayer and women have sex with the bullies instead of the guys who try to set them straight. > > They know that this raises the sexual aggression of males and they hold the space for women to make better decisions to protect their gender from sexual harassment. > > Nice guy code is to protect women from sexual harassment… and it works… it’s just that women are psychopaths, so it doesn’t matter, hence the suicide. I’m quoting myself here to add something… men cannot fuck with the female sexual denial system without being SEVERELY punished… socially, emotionally and sexually ostrasized and blackmailed… and nice guys cannot be blackmailed. One of the easiest ways to spot an asshole is to spot a wedding ring… this is someone who was blackmailed… men don’t actually believe that shit, they just do it because of sexual stratification… they’d rather secure one resource for sex than none. The number of people who participate in this system is literally about 7 billion… complete and utter psychopaths. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/84 "2014-07-15T16:29:34Z")
> [@Ecmandu](#): > > Nice guy code is about preventing the subliminal message that women want sexually what they complain about. Nice guys by the hundreds of millions have seen women complain about some guy being a complete asshole and then having sex with them over their friend who is kind and has a good ear and is well functioning. > > The kind of guys who really get laid are the guys who shit on women by calling them stupid worthless whores… often behind their backs… often straight to their faces. Sometimes the nice guys tattle on these men, by saying that these men call them stupid worthless whores, and even worse… and the women have an interesting way of dealing with this tattling… they tell those men, those men treat the tattler as a betrayer and women have sex with the bullies instead of the guys who try to set them straight. > > They know that this raises the sexual aggression of males and they hold the space for women to make better decisions to protect their gender from sexual harassment. > > Nice guy code is to protect women from sexual harassment… and it works… it’s just that women are psychopaths, so it doesn’t matter, hence the suicide. None of that is ‘fact’ - that also didn’t answer the question(s) posed. ---
**Author:** ![Ecmandu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Ecmandu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ecmandu)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/85 "2014-07-15T16:29:53Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. > > There’s never been a more perfect time to use that quote. Causal facts are things that are causal in any possible universe. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/86 "2014-07-15T16:31:43Z")
> [@Ecmandu](#): > > I’m quoting myself here to add something… men cannot fuck with the female sexual denial system without being SEVERELY punished… socially, emotionally and sexually ostrasized and blackmailed… and nice guys cannot be blackmailed. > > One of the easiest ways to spot an asshole is to spot a wedding ring… this is someone who was blackmailed… men don’t actually believe that shit, they just do it because of sexual stratification… they’d rather secure one resource for sex than none. > > The number of people who participate in this system is literally about 7 billion… complete and utter psychopaths. so, everyone _but_ you ? You live in a unique and utterly horrifying world - but the problem is not “out there”. ---
**Author:** ![Ecmandu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Ecmandu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ecmandu)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/87 "2014-07-15T16:38:52Z")
> [@Ecmandu](#): > > Causal facts are things that are causal in any possible universe. Let me add to this comment, and re-articulate why nice guy code exists. You can take ANY species on ANY planet… even species that only use genetic cloning… any possible universe… Even universes that create people out of their fucking minds… You can make the approach avoidant gender the only gender that gets to have sex when people approach them and it will behaviorally increase the degree of sexual harassment on that gender. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/88 "2014-07-15T16:46:42Z")
Worst case of Humpty Dumpty syndrome I have ever seen… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068/89 "2014-07-15T16:55:05Z")
Enough. Ecmandu, any further posting on this subject anywhere on this board and that’ll be it. Feel free to participate in other threads and topics. But this one is done on the SDMB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-focused-essay-on-suicidality/693068.md?page=4)