# Re: Regards, Shodan **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699 "2008-11-27T14:00:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/61 "2008-11-27T19:30:10Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > I like it. Yea. It’s small, harmless, and humanizing. > > Social pressure at SDMB ends up homogenizing message formatting. Much of that homogenization benefits readability, but often it seems like everyone is wearing blue jeans and a Mao jacket… and that a substantial segment gets angry at anyone dressed differently. Agreed. Seriously. . . . . Hasta la Victoria Siempre! Chez Guevara ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/62 "2008-11-27T20:00:13Z")
> [@Peak Banana](#): > > **Shodan** , you are now on my ignore list, along with everyone else who uses those cutesy sigs. They annoy the \*bejezus \*out of me. Yes, I would actually rather not see your posts at all than having to read those two lines of text. Yes, I’m serious. **Peak Banana** , we ask that posters not inform others of the contents of their ignore list. Please refrain from doing so again in the future. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/63 "2008-11-27T20:41:55Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > **Peak Banana** , we ask that posters not inform others of the contents of their ignore list. Please refrain from doing so again in the future. that’s so rude! You might as well have said knock it off. 😉 I can’t see the smiley on my PDA I hope it was the winking smiley not the scrunched eyebrow one… ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/64 "2008-11-27T21:09:02Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > that’s so rude! You might as well have said knock it off. > 😉 > > I can’t see the smiley on my PDA I hope it was the winking smiley not the scrunched eyebrow one… Well, you have no idea how hard it was for \*\*Giraffe \*\*to phrase that post. His first draft, I have on good authority, ran for sixteen pages, but with the aid of a copy-editing and speechwriting team, he managed over the course of three days somehow to express the idea politely and clearly in less than a full page. Well done, **Giraffe**! Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/65 "2008-11-27T21:45:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But this isn’t correspondence-this is ongoing conversation. If I were talking with someone, and I added “…Yours Truely, Czarcasm” at the end of my turn, _every single time_, others would find it off-putting. I know I’d slap you. ---
**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/66 "2008-11-27T21:50:55Z")
Why in the world would anyone care whether you signed off on each and every post? That’s like saying, “Your face offends me,” which I find to be deeply offensive. You are Shodan. “Regards, Shodan” is part of who you are. Screw 'em if they can’t take a polite sign-off. ---
**Author:** ![criminey.jicket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@criminey.jicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/criminey.jicket)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/67 "2008-11-27T22:24:30Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > However, I am informed by a mod that one is expected to use sigs only once per thread. Yet you continue to ignore their instructions? What makes you so special? > [@](#): > > But I like using the sign off. And I would like to include it in my posts. I sign all my correspondence that way, I have been doing it for a long time, and I like it. I am not doing it to piss anyone off. Somebody call the waaaaambulance. A mod has asked you to do something you don’t wanna dooooooooo. > [@](#): > > I am not necessarily committing to being bound by the results… No surprise there; this just reinforces my estimation of your obnoxiousness. Why start an IMHO thread in the first place? I disliked your ‘regards’ before because you carried on with it while others are admonished not to do so. I like it even less now that you admit it sometimes means 'F. You". ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/68 "2008-11-27T22:48:30Z")
Shodan could always compromise and have the two words on one line, therefore at least halving the annoyance factor for some? Diplomatically, ivan. ---
**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/69 "2008-11-27T23:04:52Z")
> [@the raindog](#): > > Actually, I disagree with him from time to time. I don’t keep track. > > What makes you think I agree with him? I doubt very highly that if he were a liberal atheist you’d be so keen on him. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/70 "2008-11-28T02:08:33Z")
> [@criminey.jicket](#): > > Yet you continue to ignore their instructions? What makes you so special? > > Somebody call the waaaaambulance. A mod has asked you to do something you don’t wanna dooooooooo. > > No surprise there; this just reinforces my estimation of your obnoxiousness. Why start an IMHO thread in the first place? > > I disliked your ‘regards’ before because you carried on with it while others are admonished not to do so. I like it even less now that you admit it sometimes means 'F. You". In fairness, this is not fair. The rule applies to the signature in one’s profile. **Shodan** ’s signoff has (up until a month or so ago) always been part of his post, not a .sig, and I have never seen him, or anyone of the other posters who do that, be told to knock it off. And anyway, that rule wouldn’t even be there if all .sigs were along the likes of “Regards, Shodan” or “Enjoy, Steven”. It’s the multi-line, multi-color, multi-font, multi-size .sigs that give the hamsters heart attacks. ---
**Author:** ![JustAnotherGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JustAnotherGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGeek)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/71 "2008-11-28T03:17:31Z")
1.) Don’t care that much about how you end your posts; what little I do care finds it annoying that it’s there and phrased as such. My overall care-o-meter hardly moves more than tha typical background noise, though. 2.) Anyone who cares that much over two lines that are there at the end of every post needs to seriously re-evaluate their priorities, or perhaps perspectives. 3.) Anything that stresses the hamsters is a **BAD THING** [sup]TM[/sup]. Now, I have no idea just how your sig stresses the hamsters, but I would advocate for you’re ditching the sig (and typing said lines each time, if you so choose), regardless of any furor that might occur. Anyone that is infuriated can see point 2. re: -Geek ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/72 "2008-11-28T03:45:48Z")
To me, some folks that do this seem to be making sure their audience is “in on” the joke (Enjoy, **Steven** ). For others, it seems to be perfunctory (like with **Daniel** or **sailboat** ). Finally, there are a couple more, like Shodan here, who seem to actually impart a meaning, depending on context (sometimes a sincere regards, occasionally a fuck you), with the sign off. Under those circumstances, I can either chuckle if it tickles my fancy, raise a dubious eyebrow or crinkle my nose at the repetition. But no matter what I choose and how I feel at that instance, I recognize that my slight feelings are inconsequential over such a tiny thing. Also, that anyone who does this should do as they see fit and everyone else perhaps needs a thicker skin (or better scrolling ability). The only thing I always view as a bit excessive and strange is for mere one or two word posts followed by a direction to do whatever. So in that keeping… Peace out friends! ~faith ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/73 "2008-11-28T03:54:42Z")
FWIW- I don’t care one way or another. I keep “sig option” off, but even on forums where that isn’t an option, my eyes glaze over and I don’t read 'em,so I don’t really notice anymore ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/74 "2008-11-28T04:02:29Z")
Shodan, it is nice that you are asking, and that you may change what you do depending on what you think of the replies. I don’t like the signature. I think of it as one of those features that is too easy to use and was best left uninvented. It grates on me because, after reading a number of your posts, I started thinking you were not actually writing it (I didn’t happen to know whether the board supports signatures). Therefore there were lines you were writing and lines that you were not writing, within the context of each posting, and either those lines don’t matter (so why have them) or they do (and somehow we’re supposed to figure that out). I also agree with eleanorigby that “Frankly, for me, it adds snark to every post he makes, something he should probably take into consideration.” Finally, it seems inherently obnoxious that we are wading through lines in your posting that you did not write specifically for that posting while for you it is automatic. However, I think these are all pretty small points. I acknowledge your right within the SDMB rules to do this and do not think it is worth arguing over. Discussing? Yes, and thank you for the opportunity. This is, after all, a discussion forum, and much of the discussion is because something seems interesting at that moment, and at this moment, the pros and cons of signatures feel interesting to me. But I wouldn’t have started complaining without being asked. In general I think people shouldn’t use them, and I imagine that if I had created and run the SDMB I would not have included or even allowed such a feature. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/75 "2008-11-28T04:09:40Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > To me, some folks that do this seem to be making sure their audience is “in on” the joke (Enjoy, **Steven** ). For others, it seems to be perfunctory (like with **Daniel** or **sailboat** ). Finally, there are a couple more, like Shodan here, who seem to actually impart a meaning, depending on context (sometimes a sincere regards, occasionally a fuck you), with the sign off. I’m not clear on why you think that. Three out of four of your examples (I’m not familar with sailboat) use a signoff all the time. If it’s used all the time, I don’t see how one can assign meaning to any specific use of it. It stands apart from the post, in my opinion. Personally, I would assume that if “Regards, Shodan” was not in the post, that would be the insult. “I can’t post ‘Fuck you’ but you’re not getting ‘Regards’”. Maybe that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/76 "2008-11-28T07:05:38Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’m not clear on why you think that. Three out of four of your examples (I’m not familar with sailboat) use a signoff all the time. If it’s used all the time, I don’t see how one can assign meaning to any specific use of it. > > It stands apart from the post, in my opinion. Personally, I would assume that if “Regards, Shodan” was not in the post, that would be the insult. “I can’t post ‘Fuck you’ but you’re not getting ‘Regards’”. Maybe that’s just me. I’m not sure I can explain it any better than I did or than **Shodan** himself. Sometimes, it just comes across as intended different. Here’s the best that I can come up with off the top of my little pointy head, just using the OP for an example… As implied (with “regards”), in a thread where condolences are appropriate. As an perhaps an insult, when observing that Obama will get exactly all the same amount of respect that Bush was beseiged with. Or something to that affect. So, those may not be the best illustrations, but that’s somewhat in the ballpark of my meaning. Hopefully that’ll help and if not, I’m sorry I can’t do a better job. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/77 "2008-11-28T07:27:37Z")
Slow day for the mods? Don’t they have real problems to deal with? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/78 "2008-11-28T08:46:45Z")
Hey **Shodan**. Remember when Dan Rather starting saying “courage” when he ended the evening news broadcast? Remember how completely silly that sounded? That’s the equivalent of signing posts on a message board. Blankly, Slate ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/79 "2008-11-28T09:08:45Z")
I used to not mind the ‘Regards, Shodan’ bit. Nowadays, it irritates the hell out of me because of all the MENSA candidates who think it’s absolutely hilarious to pump out their own version thereof in every thread involving you. A few people doing it is one thing, but it’s hugely annoying (like all internet signatures are) when everyone appends them. Be that as it may, I think **Blank Slate’s** comparison is a bit off. It’s more like Bob Barker’s whinging on about neutering your pets. Even if you find it annoying, wouldn’t it be really weird for the Price is Right to end without it? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699/80 "2008-11-28T11:18:39Z")
Please note that he doesn’t even try to argue that, on the occasions that his sig clearly denotes (even to him!) “fuck you!”, those posts are not necessarily and exclusively posts made in the Pit. IOW, folks, he’s bragging about slipping into forums other than the Pit a sig whose amusement value is that it communicates “fuck you.” This is hardly news to those who dislike the sig, because that’s how we interpret it as well, but I hardly see how this is not a violation of protocol around here, now that he’s admitted its intent while rejecting the limit of its “fuck you” interpretation to the Pit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-regards-shodan/474699.md?page=5)