# Re Susanann: Do Not Feed The Idiot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 20, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346 "2011-03-20T10:58:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/1 "2011-03-20T10:58:49Z")

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**Susanann** is not a troll; she holds her beliefs sincerely, and isn’t trying to get a fight going just for the fun of it.

But she is an irrational, illogical, clueless idiot. Watching others take her on in the [Parents of Young Children: Do You Worry About Their Future?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=601281) thread, all I could think of was, it’s exactly how it always went when we would try to use logic and evidence in an argument with my mother. It’s rarely if ever worked with Mom in the past half-century, and it’s not likely to work with **Susanann** either.

Really, best to just work around her, rather than take her on. Even when she’s wildly wrong, you’re not going to show her the error of her ways; she’ll just find a new way for the argument you’re having with her to get even more stupid and (for you) more frustrating.

Just let her [be wrong on the Internet](http://xkcd.com/386/). That way, a stupid Susanann post like the one at #8 in the linked thread won’t wind up taking over what otherwise might’ve been an interesting discussion.

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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/2 "2011-03-20T11:41:38Z")

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Wow. Hijacked that thread quick n’ proper, didn’t she?

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/3 "2011-03-20T11:51:17Z")

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> [@norinew](#):
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> Wow. Hijacked that thread quick n’ proper, didn’t she?
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> :smack:

No she didn’t. The question of the OP was weather people worried about the future of their children. Several people expressed concern about the kind of world they would grow up in. Susanna agreed and specified the exact things of the world she was concerned about. The people deciding to debate Susannas concerns rather than adress the topic of the op, they derailed the thread.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/4 "2011-03-20T12:34:13Z")

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What’s up with **Susanann** and the RANDOM!!! emphasis in her posts? Typist’s Tourette’s?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/5 "2011-03-20T13:14:08Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What’s up with **Susanann** and the RANDOM!!! emphasis in her posts? Typist’s Tourette’s?

Maybe she knows she’s bad at vB coding and prefers caps and multiple exclamation points where you or I would use italics or boldface. Or she learned to write screeds back in the time of typed mimeographed 'zines and has kept the habit.

Now, she \*may \*indeed _be_ an irrational, illogical, clueless idiot who is sticking to her irrational, illogical, clueless guns entirely sincerely, _ **but** _, both **Rune** and the OP are right, we don’t have to fight un until we “defeat” her. The fighting ignorance bit can be dealt with by a straightforward factual correction, with cite, if she posts something objectively misinformed; perhaps a :rolleyes: if she insists, and then move along back to the thread.

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**Author:** ![beartato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@beartato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beartato)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/6 "2011-03-20T14:14:41Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What’s up with **Susanann** and the RANDOM!!! emphasis in her posts? Typist’s Tourette’s?

It TOTALLY!!! reminds me of the writing style of middle aged flyover country housewives. Like your spouse’s aunt who is always forwarding you CHAIN!!! emails about THOSE FOREIGNERS!!! crushing a little boy’s arm for stealing some bread or something. If the SDMB allowed avatars, hers would be an animated angel. If she posted a picture of herself, she would be wearing a baby blue sweater with a cat who had gemstones for eyes. Sorry, EYES!!!

Anyway, I was kind of pissed that **Kyla** got a Mod note for her post in[this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=599479) about the Roman Colosseum. To sum up, I told **Susanann** she didn’t know what she was talking about, and **Kyla** posted that that was a reasonable response to all posts of **Susanann** , which is pretty much one of those truths like water being wet. I couldn’t believe that was considered a personal attack… but whatever. The point is, RTFirefly is correct, **Susanann** is a useless idiot who should be ignored by all. I’m sure she’s got some scrapbooking to do or something.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/7 "2011-03-20T14:29:31Z")

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I just took a gander at the thread linked to in the OP. :eek: Wow. If you’ve ever wondered just who’s buying Glenn Beck’s gold, I think you have your answer.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/8 "2011-03-20T14:35:50Z")

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**Susanann** has never pinged my radar before but judging from that one post alone, she seems to be overflowing with cynisism. I _almost_ feel sorry for her.

All that negativity aint no way to go through life.

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/9 "2011-03-20T14:50:28Z")

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Considering that the standard of living has been going up for people all over the world, that life expectancies are at an all-time high, and that our world is more highly educated than ever before, you’d think her outlook would be a little rosier.

It has its faults, but it sounds like she should read _The Progress Paradox: How Life Gets Better While People Feel Worse_, by Gregg Easterbrook.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/10 "2011-03-20T14:58:35Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> \*\*  
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> Just let her [be wrong on the Internet](http://xkcd.com/386/). That way, a stupid Susanann post like the one at #8 in the linked thread won’t wind up taking over what otherwise might’ve been an interesting discussion.

I think her crystal ball is channeling a Mad Max trilogy TV broadcast.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/11 "2011-03-20T14:59:24Z")

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Well, **THAT!!!** was entertaining. In a pschobabbly, off our meds sort of way.

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/12 "2011-03-20T15:01:53Z")

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I think she’s kind of hilarious. No matter what the thread, her post always contains a rant about immigration. Every problem in the entire world is the fault of those damn Mexicans. It’s rather fun to see how she’ll work it in.

Love \*\*beartato’s \*\*description.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/13 "2011-03-20T15:10:48Z")

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> [@Renee](#):
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> I think she’s kind of hilarious. No matter what the thread, her post always contains a rant about immigration. Every problem in the entire world is the fault of those damn Mexicans. It’s rather fun to see how she’ll work it in.

She is hilarious, but her “The US will have 1 billion people in 100 years!” schtick is frustrating. She won’t see reason (or reasonable cites) and she won’t back down.

Meanwhile, in 100 years she’ll be dead. So it’s a little hard to make predictions about population that far in the future.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/14 "2011-03-20T15:21:49Z")

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I just read this:

> [@Parents of Young Children: Do You Worry About Their Future?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-of-young-children-do-you-worry-about-their-future/575233/8):
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> The United States is going to be \*\*HUGELY!!! \*\* into debt, bankrupt, poor, overpopulated, lots more crime, lots less available jobs, polluted and dirty, higher taxes, high inflation/hyperinflation, a worthless dollar, more laws more regulations more searches less privacy less freedom, civilian gun ownership/self-defense will be illegal, food shortages, water shortages, oil and energy shortages, and the chinese buying up all the nicest places in America.
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> There will much less jobs and much fewer factories in America as we continue “free trade” and NAFTA CAFTA even though at the same time the population in the USA will be over 1 billion by the end of the century because of continuing record immigration from third world countries.
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> With no money no jobs and too many people living here, the infrastructure in America, roads, bridges, dams, schools, hospitals, and the United States military will all deteriorate into shambles and the liberal Democrats and communists will control all political offices and whites and Christians will be a small minority and politically insignificant.
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> With the US military/World Policeman gone, there will many wars everywhere all the time, and there will be another huge World War, along with several limited nuclear wars esp in the Middle East and in asia.
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> The future is going to be very different for your children and your grandchildren. Prepare them for it.

And I reading that and laughing like a drunk Klingon. The Onion would be so proud.

I mean that’s gold Jerry, gold!  
but then she finishes it off with:

> [@](#):
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> (BTW, this is the “sugar coated” version )

That was just beautiful. I’m laughing so hard I’m crying. That one line took it to a new a level.

I’m really hoping it’s parody cause otherwise I feel like a jerk for laughing at a crazy person.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/15 "2011-03-20T15:25:15Z")

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She’s the worst kind of idiot. She thinks she knows shit that she has no clue about. Over in GQ she’s telling us how “puzzled” she is that Japanese aren’t committing suicide in droves over the nuclear incident. How dare they not live up to her prejudiced stereotype!!

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/16 "2011-03-20T15:26:57Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Meanwhile, in 100 years she’ll be dead.

Silver Lining: **FOUND!**

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/17 "2011-03-20T15:31:38Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> She is hilarious, but her “The US will have 1 billion people in 100 years!” schtick is frustrating. She won’t see reason (or reasonable cites) and she won’t back down.
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> Meanwhile, in 100 years she’ll be dead. So it’s a little hard to make predictions about population that far in the future.

Well, to quote John Maynard Keynes, “In the long run we are all dead.”

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/18 "2011-03-20T15:45:02Z")

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BTW, for someone who rails against Communists so much, I find it ironic how profoundly anti-capitalistic she is.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/19 "2011-03-20T15:47:04Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, for someone who rails against Communists so much, I find it ironic how profoundly anti-capitalistic she is.

She’s a racist, populist, isolationist. And an idiot.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/20 "2011-03-20T15:52:45Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, for someone who rails against Communists so much, I find it ironic how profoundly anti-capitalistic she is.

Well in fairness I don’t think it’s very ironic. Let’s be super ironic and say Stalin was Capitalism, and Hitler was Communism.

Okay I don’t know if that level metaphorical irony is safe but let’s live dangerously.

Hitler and Stalin considered themselves to be ideological opposites, however they were both evil. They both get hated for very good reasons. Because one hates Hitler does not prevent one from hating Stalin.

Being anticommunist does not follow that one is procapitalist.

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