# Re Susanann: Do Not Feed The Idiot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 20, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346 "2011-03-20T10:58:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/121 "2011-03-23T01:50:51Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Clearly, you are not paying attention. This is junior high. By definition,\* nobody \*fits in. Right now, you remind me of the 8th grade girls whose present catchphrase is to sneer “you’re so childish!” at anybody they disagree with or don’t like.  
> If this were GD, you might possibly have some leg to stand on with this apparent effort to catch me in some logical contradiction of my own position, but it isn’t. This is The Pit, which is not only Junior High, but Junior High during lunch period when the teachers are too busy chatting with each other and thinking about sneaking out for a smoke to give a fuck what anybody does or says as long as there is no outright violence.

Oh I have been paying attention. Your post #37 demonstrates your mentality well. And I have better things to do with my time than spend it bantering on the internet w/someone who calls them self _Scum Pup_.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/122 "2011-03-23T02:02:14Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> What reason might you have to not capitalize words that should be? Since your writing is otherwise decent, and it requires so little effort to use the shift key when appropriate causes folks to wonder why you’re either deliberately trying to be annoyingly different. Or just simply an incredibly lazy arse.
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> Either way, it detracts and distracts from the quality of your content and how you’re perceived. I mean you’ve made it this far in the realm of coherency. Why not go the full nine yards, use the goddamn shift key?

with the exception of my school work, it’s just how i write. it’s not a gimmick or me trying to be different. frankly, i’m kind of surprised at the reactions. it’s the pit, i know, but i’m sure i’ve seen other posters over the years who write the same way and it never seemed to bother anyone.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/123 "2011-03-23T02:08:56Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> it’s the pit, i know, but i’m sure i’ve seen other posters over the years who write the same way and it never seemed to bother anyone.

You haven’t. Failure to write properly has always in my eight years here drawn opprobrium.

You’re getting off light, in fact. You only think you’re E. E. Cummings, and leave off capitals. Just try getting your grammar incorrect and see what happens. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/124 "2011-03-23T02:30:27Z")

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…and then the thread got _weird_!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/125 "2011-03-23T02:31:58Z")

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But **susanann** ’s still an idiot, right?

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/126 "2011-03-23T02:48:23Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Not to the best of my knowledge. I used the term to indicate that she is not showing up to this Pitting.

Meh. If she had actually left, then yeah, it could be distasteful. But she’s here to defend herself. The pile on is fair.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/127 "2011-03-23T03:16:45Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> You haven’t. Failure to write properly has always in my eight years here drawn opprobrium.
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> You’re getting off light, in fact. You only think you’re E. E. Cummings, and leave off capitals. Just try getting your grammar incorrect and see what happens. :eek:

i’ll be careful…

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/128 "2011-03-23T03:25:20Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> them self

Gaudere’s Law?

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/129 "2011-03-23T06:50:43Z")

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I had to go with the spell checker. (it’s never wrong, right?)

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/130 "2011-03-23T15:13:01Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Her screeds are a companion piece to "[It’s Evening in America", says Today’s GOP.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=600420)
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> The Glen Beck/Tea Party/Susanann crowd have given up on America. If it DOESN’T fail, they’ll be horribly dissappointed.

Don’t worry, it’ll be a new day in Amerikuh when they get that Democrat out of the white house. All sorts of optomism then.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/131 "2011-03-23T15:53:21Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> with the exception of my school work, it’s just how i write. it’s not a gimmick or me trying to be different. frankly, i’m kind of surprised at the reactions. it’s the pit, i know, but i’m sure i’ve seen other posters over the years who write the same way and it never seemed to bother anyone.

Honey, just use your shift key. You aren’t a special snowflake. If you can use proper capitalization in your schoolwork, you can do it here.

I’m not telling you this to be an asshole, I’m telling you this because, well, why are you here? To confer, converse, and otherwise hobnob. And so, if people file you under “illiterate” simply because you didn’t use standard orthography, who are you hurting? Only yourself. If you don’t care about what people think, why are you bothering to write for them? The whole point of posting here is that you care about what other people think.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/132 "2011-03-23T15:57:01Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by monstro  
> > How much ya’ll wanna bet Susanann goes to church every Sunday and believes in the power of prayer?
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> > If American Christians actually believed half the stuff they preach, they would be the most carefree people on the planet. Indeed, many of them were just a couple of years ago. But something has changed between now and then. I wonder what that thing was.
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> I think your memory is seriously distorted here, and I think it comes from trying to equate two very different groups of Christians.
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> Some Christians have been predicting the Apocalypse since Jesus was preaching. In fact, according to the Gospels, Jesus himself preached that the end of the world would come _before some of the people hearing him had tasted death._ That means it was long overdue by the time the New Testament was actually written, decades after the crucifixion and, as I understand it, after the last of the original disciples had died. In vaguely more recent times, Europe had a massive upswing of Millennial Apocalyptic Hysteria (MAH) around 1000, as the religion has always been big on huge round numbers. When this didn’t happen, new dates were chosen right up through the 1800s, 1900s, and, of course, 2000 was going to be It for the MAH crowd. MAH is just something that periodically happens and then dies away for a while in Christian populations.
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> There are, of course, happy, perky Christians of the “Live and Let God”/“Our God is an Awesome God” variety. Based on very little, I’ll date the modern version of this to the 1970s Jesus Freak Revival when a number of the hippies decided to bring that long-haired pinko Jew Jesus back to his countercultural roots. They were the ones behind “Jesus Christ, Superstar” and Christian Rock to this day, seriously pissing off people like Jimmy Swaggart and thus earning their place in civil society. I’ve never associated them with MAH, but I could be wrong.

I think he was talking about Obama. I think he’s accusing Susanan of racism of the Christian identity sort.

I agree with you that Christians come in many different flavors and the worst ones get all the publicity.

Jesus gave us all Cliff notes to Christianity when someone asked what the most important commandment was and He replied (paraphrasing)

> [@](#):
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> ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

He doesn’t just say that loving God and loving your neighbor are a couple of things to keep in mind, He says that they are the root of all that we believe…

ALL the law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments, not some not the old testament, not the new testament, ALL OF IT.

If you knew nothing else about Christianity but you knew these two things, you would know Christianity and if you know every word in the bible but don’t know these two things then you just have a good memory. They had a word for this sort of person in Jesus’ time, they were called Pharisees, people who loved every word of the law but none of the spirit.

Its really easy for a straight male to follow the Pharisee’s rules: don’t be gay, don’t get an bortion, go to church on Sundays, don’t swear, don’t steal, etc.

Its really tough to love your God and love your neighbor. Every time I spend $20 to buy my kid a toy he will throw away by the weekend instead of feeding a hungry child somewhere, I break that rule. But thats why I need Jesus, because I’m not strong enough sacrifice my child’s fleeting pleasure for another child’s dire need.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/133 "2011-03-23T15:58:25Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> If you’re going down that road, I have to link to [“The Paranoid Style in American Politics”](http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/the_paranoid_style.html), which is the classic article on the subject from November 1964. It wasn’t new even then:
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> I personally noticed it ramping up to a violent degree in the 1990s, with a number of bombings and other violent acts on the part of self-proclaimed ‘patriots’, and I wonder whether any of the people currently associating with the Tea Party or Sarah Palin are going to become violent idiots if they find out they won’t always get their way.

“Beware the impostures of pretended patriotism”

-George Washington

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/134 "2011-03-23T16:24:40Z")

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“Stop writing down everything we say, you stalkers. Now, I’m off to fuck a slave.”

-Thomas Jefferson

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/135 "2011-03-23T17:27:10Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Honey, just use your shift key. You aren’t a special snowflake. If you can use proper capitalization in your schoolwork, you can do it here.
> 
> I’m not telling you this to be an asshole, I’m telling you this because, well, why are you here? To confer, converse, and otherwise hobnob. And so, if people file you under “illiterate” simply because you didn’t use standard orthography, who are you hurting? Only yourself. If you don’t care about what people think, why are you bothering to write for them? The whole point of posting here is that you care about what other people think.

in case i’ve given the impression that i’m college age, i’m not. i’m older than that. if people file me under illiterate, i can’t stop them, but i think i’ve demonstrated that i can read and write just fine.

i’m certainly not under the impression that i’m a special snowflake. time and experience have long since cured me of those youthful ideals.

i’m here for the same reason everyone else is- to debate, converse, share ideas. and i’ve done just that in plenty of other threads. perhaps it’s because i tend towards posting in cafe society, but it’s never been brought up before.

people can be harsh on me all they want, and i’m fine with it. i’ve certainly been rather harsh in some of my pit postings, and i’m not one to dish it out if i can’t take it.

certainly i’m interested in what other people think- about movies, tv shows, books, ideas, and on and on and on. but what they think about me? i don’t particularly care about that.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/136 "2011-03-23T18:07:07Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> in case i’ve given the impression that i’m college age, i’m not. i’m older than that. if people file me under illiterate, i can’t stop them, but i think i’ve demonstrated that i can read and write just fine.

Wrong. You write like a fucking young teen in a chat room, as has been pointed out. And despite your protestations to the contrary, you obviously do it because you think it makes you stand out - you can hardly claim it puts you out terribly to use proper capitalization. You can’t be bothered to follow basic rules of written English like a literate adult, a lot of people can’t be bothered to deal with you on an adult level.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/137 "2011-03-23T18:08:58Z")

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why are you so angry? it’s really not that big of a deal.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/138 "2011-03-23T18:12:09Z")

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I’m not angry. I don’t give a shit about you one way or the other. But you know it’s incorrect, you know it makes people here unwilling to take you seriously, and you know it’s “not that big a deal” to capitalize, yet you refuse to do so, so the only conclusion to be drawn is that you’re doing it on purpose to be “different”. Sounds like a teen to me.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/139 "2011-03-23T18:15:05Z")

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well, you’re no fun anymore.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-susanann-do-not-feed-the-idiot/575346/140 "2011-03-23T18:18:00Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I’m not angry. I don’t give a shit about you one way or the other. But you know it’s incorrect, you know it makes people here unwilling to take you seriously, and you know it’s “not that big a deal” to capitalize, yet you refuse to do so, so the only conclusion to be drawn is that you’re doing it on purpose to be “different”. Sounds like a teen to me.

Don’t take it upon yourself to speak for everybody, please. Until this thread, I was unaware that **expectopatronum** even existed. I may or may not decide to take him seriously, but it won’t be on the basis of capitalization alone.

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