# Re the cosmetic filler & plastic surgery look of wealthy women & celebrities **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 19, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371 "2016-09-19T19:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/21 "2016-09-20T21:57:31Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > So how do you explain people like Sigourney Weaver? She’s 66, rich and a celebrity. > > Sigourney Weaver is 7 years older than Carrie Fisher and clearly [Sigourney Weaver - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigourney_Weaver#/media/File:Sigourney_Weaver_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg) hasn’t had any work done other than her neck, but looks much younger in comparison. Maintaining a steady healthy weight and lifestyle makes a world of difference. > > And your GIS above? OMG. I’m a couple of years away from 60. I literally would shoot myself if I looked like most of those “average women”. I don’t “stuff my face with plastic”. I’m in great shape, eat right, have perfect teeth and take care of myself. According to your photos, I should start chewin’ tobaccy, gain 50 lbs, dress from the Wal-Mart clearance rack, cut my own hair, forget that Sephora exists, move to the Ozarks and find a cousin to marry. Some people have awesome genes. My grandmother looked 40 at 60. Looked 60 at 80. Heavy drinker, heavy smoker, heavy sunbather. Awesome genes. Died at 83 from lung cancer and an embolism (the embolism got her, but the cancer was running a close second). No “work” done, but one of those great bone structures. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/22 "2016-09-20T22:03:21Z")
(Christie Brinkley locks herself in a glass coffin every night to keep from aging. In earlier times she’d have been burned at the stake. THAT isn’t normal - with or without “work”) ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/23 "2016-09-21T00:18:02Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > So how do you explain people like Sigourney Weaver? She’s 66, rich and a celebrity. > > Sigourney Weaver is 7 years older than Carrie Fisher and clearly [Sigourney Weaver - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigourney_Weaver#/media/File:Sigourney_Weaver_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg) hasn’t had any work done other than her neck, but looks much younger in comparison. Maintaining a steady healthy weight and lifestyle makes a world of difference. > > And your GIS above? OMG. I’m a couple of years away from 60. I literally would shoot myself if I looked like most of those “average women”. I don’t “stuff my face with plastic”. I’m in great shape, eat right, have perfect teeth and take care of myself. According to your photos, I should start chewin’ tobaccy, gain 50 lbs, dress from the Wal-Mart clearance rack, cut my own hair, forget that Sephora exists, move to the Ozarks and find a cousin to marry. Really? You are that shallow? You lived amongst beauty all your life and nobody you know looks old? Must be pretty special to be you. I hope your gaze never falls on an old woman who looks it. Especially in a mirror. Wouldn’t want you to harm yourself. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/24 "2016-09-21T00:28:01Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Really? You are that shallow? You lived amongst beauty all your life and nobody you know looks old? Must be pretty special to be you. I hope your gaze never falls on an old woman who looks it. Especially in a mirror. Wouldn’t want you to harm yourself. I don’t understand. Sig Weaver looks normal for her age, unless the new definition for her age is morbidly obese, missing half her teeth and lung cancer. It seems \*\*Lurker \*\*is saying that staying is shape, eating healthy, exercising and looking your age is fine. Are you saying Sig sets some unrealistic standard of beauty? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/25 "2016-09-21T00:31:00Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I don’t understand. Sig Weaver looks normal for her age, unless the new definition for her age is morbidly obese, missing half her teeth and lung cancer. It seems \*\*Lurker \*\*is saying that staying is shape, eating healthy, exercising and looking your age is fine. > > Are you saying Sig sets some unrealistic standard of beauty? No, I’m commenting on NJ’s fear of looking old. So much so she’d kill herself if she did. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/26 "2016-09-21T00:46:10Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > No, I’m commenting on NJ’s fear of looking old. So much so she’d kill herself if she did. Oh. I just looked at those google search photos. Hard to say. Quite a range there. I don’t think all those women are 60. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/27 "2016-09-21T15:23:39Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > My daughter and I were just discussing this while watching some news overview of an award show. But as bad as the women look the men are just as bad. I didn’t even recognize John Travolta. His skin looked so pulled back and shiny and his face did have that lizard look to it. It looks sculpted, and it looks like his hair should be pulled back tight but it’s not. Well, his hair is a hair piece, so not sure it can be pulled back tight to match the pulled-back face look. But it’s just one more thing that stars do to manipulate their looks. I still think aging gracefully and do little to nothing (other than taking care of one’s self) offers the best odds of looking good as time marches on. But their are psychological and social reasons people (such as the women offered up in the OP) do what they do with plastic and cosmetic surgeries. Their reality, which exists in their head, is not fully relatable to others. You want full lips back, so you have cognitive dissonance to whether they look better. You can get fuller lips with collagen. You go to get the injections. You have fuller lips. Fuller lips are better (right?). You have fuller lips. You get oogled at by men and confirmation bias kicks in. . ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/28 "2016-09-21T15:51:25Z")
> [@astro](#): > > The comments are somewhat justified. Both Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher do not just look their age, they look _older_ and beat up. Hamill and Fisher have been massive and chronic smokers most of their lives and it shows. Their faces are like catchers mitts under the makeup. There are 60 year old homeless people with better skin than Hamill and Fisher. This is why people get cosmetic surgery, because if you don’t then comments about how horrible you look are apparently justified. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/29 "2016-09-21T16:01:29Z")
But these aging celebrities who get cosmetic surgery are also subjected to comments about how horrible it looks. . ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/30 "2016-09-21T16:05:02Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > But these aging celebrities who get cosmetic surgery are also subjected to comments about how horrible it looks. > > . Right, it’s basically a no win situation for them, other than the lucky few who have amazing genes and still look great at whatever age. I was just pointing out that the OP is basically both saying “why would someone get plastic surgery and look weird?” and “these people who didn’t get plastic surgery look terrible”. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/31 "2016-09-21T17:07:04Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > And your GIS above? OMG. I’m a couple of years away from 60. I literally would shoot myself if I looked like most of those “average women”. I don’t “stuff my face with plastic”. I’m in great shape, eat right, have perfect teeth and take care of myself. According to your photos, I should start chewin’ tobaccy, gain 50 lbs, dress from the Wal-Mart clearance rack, cut my own hair, forget that Sephora exists, move to the Ozarks and find a cousin to marry. Damn. This is incredibly nasty and hateful. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/32 "2016-09-21T17:50:11Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Right, it’s basically a no win situation for them, other than the lucky few who have amazing genes and still look great at whatever age. I was just pointing out that the OP is basically both saying “why would someone get plastic surgery and look weird?” and “these people who didn’t get plastic surgery look terrible”. Being a celebrity comes with some serious downsides. What we can glean from some of this isn’t all that surprising: People have high expectations for you, Mr/Mrs Celeb, and whether your rough lifestyle, poor genetics or misguided surgeries or injections lead to some negative consequences in the ol’ looks department, which we choose to cling to, then we’re gonna let it be known. - John/Jane Q. Public . ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371/33 "2016-09-21T18:45:27Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > Being a celebrity comes with some serious downsides. What we can glean from some of this isn’t all that surprising: People have high expectations for you, Mr/Mrs Celeb, and whether your rough lifestyle, poor genetics or misguided surgeries or injections lead to some negative consequences in the ol’ looks department, which we choose to cling to, then we’re gonna let it be known. - John/Jane Q. Public > > . I know it’s hard to shed tears for millionaires, but this affects normal people too. When people online are saying how bad that celebrities look just because they’ve aged or gained a little weight or something else, the celebrities won’t might not read it, but other average people will. They’ll think “people are saying that Jane Celebrity looks bad, but I think she looks better than me, so do people think I look hideous?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-the-cosmetic-filler-plastic-surgery-look-of-wealthy-women-celebrities/766371.md?page=1)