# Re transgender lifter Laurel Hubbard - I don't think this is fair to bio female weight lifters **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-transgender-lifter-laurel-hubbard-i-dont-think-this-is-fair-to-bio-female-weight-lifters/782809 "2017-03-23T02:46:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-transgender-lifter-laurel-hubbard-i-dont-think-this-is-fair-to-bio-female-weight-lifters/782809/1 "2017-03-23T02:46:23Z")
I get that her testosterone is below setpoints established by the sporting rules but in her first time competing internationally she is blowing away the elite bio-female competitors by 19 kgs - a huge margin. [Weightlifting: Transgender lifter Laurel Hubbard wins first international outing](http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11821399) You can do all the handwaving you want that her time competing as a weightlifting man makes no difference as long as her T scores are within spec, but the results here make it clear that it’s a nonsensical position to take in a sport like weightlifting. Trans people should not be limited in what they want to pursue but in categorizing sports records there’s going to have to be a commonsense reality check in certain circumstances where having been a bio male is going to offer overwhelming advantages in competing. This is rendering bio females weightlifting records and accomplishments meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-transgender-lifter-laurel-hubbard-i-dont-think-this-is-fair-to-bio-female-weight-lifters/782809/2 "2017-03-23T02:49:54Z")
[**aldiboronti** already did the heavy lifting.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=822178) ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-transgender-lifter-laurel-hubbard-i-dont-think-this-is-fair-to-bio-female-weight-lifters/782809/3 "2017-03-23T11:54:24Z")
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