# Reacher - the full-sized version is a vast improvement {Season 2, 1st 3 episodes available 2023-12-15} **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\ **Created:** [February 5, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978 "2022-02-05T21:10:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/221 "2024-01-15T06:02:47Z")
> [@simster](#): > > and I am not entirely happy with his robbing random drug dealers, I am. > [@simster](#): > > And Cruise - yeah - he delivered it Cruise was a better actor, but he was just not Jack Reacher. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/222 "2024-01-15T13:58:18Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Reacher, like a lot of lesser action shows, solves the ‘actors can’t fight’ problem with fast cuts, zoom ins and dark rooms so you can’t see what’s actually happening, etc. It just make fights lok chaotic and lacking in any kind of strategy or nuance. I don’t really recall the Cruise/Reacher fight scenes. As others have mentioned, tho the movies were fun, he physically just was not Reacher. The books always have pretty good descriptions of the streetfighting aspects - tho distorted by Reacher’s massiveness and superhuman strength. In fighting, speed generally results from economy of motion. And from the books, I don’t quite remember Reacher as quite as bloodthirsty - saying things like, “We just have to kill a few more people.” I thought of him more as just matter-of-factly going about his business, with the bodies piling up almost incidentally. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > My recollection of season 1 is that it really went of the rails at the end, starting with the bad guys having captured Reacher, knowing full well how ludicrously lethal he is, and then NOT immediately killing him. Yeah, I thought that final ep way less satisfying than all that led up to it. ---
**Author:** ![Guapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@Guapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guapo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/223 "2024-01-21T21:07:09Z")
I had just read the book when the current series started. Lots of changes from the book, none of which made it better. The helicopter scene, in particular, was slightly more believable in the book ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/224 "2024-01-22T00:17:48Z")
I think the scene with the stretcher might be the most extreme exaggeration of the one-armed hang I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/225 "2024-01-22T00:19:06Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > think the scene with the stretcher might be the most extreme exaggeration of the one-armed hang I’ve seen I watched that and just shook my head. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/226 "2024-01-22T20:23:27Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > TV and Film meme- tough guys dont eat or sleep. Have you watched the new show [Obliterated](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11097240/) on Netflix? It’s a lightweight comedy action kind of thing, and one of the running jokes is that their Big Tough Guy spends the entire time damn near staving to death. He keeps ordering food any chance he gets, but also getting interrupted by action scenes just before he gets his food. By the end of the adventure, he’s basically wiped out from lack of calories. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/227 "2024-01-23T00:12:14Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Have you watched the new show [Obliterated](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11097240/) on Netflix? I despise netfucks. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/228 "2024-01-23T02:48:48Z")
I thought the finale was OK. Like season 1, it was a bit anticlimactic, but not as much so. Not a great wrap up, but satisfying. I agree that stretcher helicopter scene was kind of pushing it, but… Reacher is, basically, a superhero. I was a bit disappointed at Lavoy’s heel turn. I like the idea of a character who is corrupt and sleazy but not super-evil. More interesting than just another baddy. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/229 "2024-01-23T03:46:27Z")
“It won’t be forever- we just have to kill a few more people”. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/230 "2024-01-23T17:01:00Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Have you watched the new show [Obliterated](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11097240/) on Netflix? It’s a lightweight comedy action kind of thing Hmm, sounds like something I might like! And with Jason Mantzoukas and David Costabile, both of whom I tend to enjoy in most things. I’ve added it to my list. Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/231 "2024-01-26T07:01:24Z")
> **[‘Reacher’ Will Go Undercover as Season 3’s Source Material Announced; Maria...](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/reacher-season-3-book-maria-sten-1235886326/)** > > Amazon has confirmed which Lee Child book will serve as the basis for "Reacher" Season 3. Based on the book **Persuader**. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/232 "2024-01-26T07:04:03Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Based on the book **Persuader**. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/233 "2024-02-01T14:17:31Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Based on the book **Persuader**. Here I am, killing time at Goodwill while Kid Cheesesteak searches for “valuable” things to resell on eBay, and what book do I see on the shelf? 99 cents well spent, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/234 "2024-02-01T14:20:02Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > 99 cents well spent, I think. Heh. I’m listening to it right now, checked out from Libby. I was sure that I’ve read it already, but I certainly don’t remember any details. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/235 "2024-02-01T18:32:58Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Here I am, killing time at Goodwill … Did you check their clothes selection in sizes XXXXXL? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/236 "2024-02-10T07:06:51Z")
In Season 2 did anyone else think the David Spade soundalike who played David O’Donnell was a traitor? I kept waiting for that reveal up until the end. > [@Dinsdale](#): > > And from the books, I don’t quite remember Reacher as quite as bloodthirsty - saying things like, “We just have to kill a few more people.” I thought of him more as just matter-of-factly going about his business, with the bodies piling up almost incidentally. I just finished the first book and noticed this difference. In the book his motivation was to finish his brother’s work, but in Season 1 it was to kill his brother’s murderers. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I thought the finale was OK. Like season 1, it was a bit anticlimactic, but not as much so. Not a great wrap up, but satisfying. I liked the ending to Season 1. It went through all of the tropes, but at least did it quickly. Agree on the ending to Season 2. It was way too drawn out (helicopter showdown scene, arms dealer justice scene, helicopter shot down scene, obvious betrayal and backfire scene, diner scene, a bunch of scenes of people getting money, then they’re all drinking around a fire somewhere?, and motel scene, and bus scene. Too much epilogue for my tastes. ---
**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/237 "2025-02-21T17:58:43Z")
The first three episodes of season 3 dropped last night. I was not a huge fan of season 2, but after reading some of the early reviews I have hope for the new season. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/238 "2025-02-21T18:33:48Z")
New trailer: > **[REACHER Season 3 - Official Trailer | Prime Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCFXvDeUoi0%2F)** > > Based on Lee Child's novel Persuader, Reacher hurtles into the dark heart of a vast criminal enterprise when trying to rescue an undercover DEA informant who... ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/239 "2025-02-21T18:34:29Z")
I watched the first three eps yesterday: I liked them/I like this season’s setup. And, it’s always fun for this Gen X kid to see Anthony Michael Hall. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978/240 "2025-02-21T18:35:02Z")
Watched the first three last night. Follows the book fairly closely. Enjoying most of the cast with the exception of the baby DEA agent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reacher-the-full-sized-version-is-a-vast-improvement-season-2-1st-3-episodes-available-2023-12-15/958978.md?page=13)