# Read it and weep, Seven of Nine fans! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 22, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569 "2004-06-22T03:53:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/1 "2004-06-22T03:53:41Z")
No debate. Just a lovely vision to carry with you. From [The Chicago Tribune](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040621ryan,1,2197053.story?coll=chi-news-hed): > [@](#): > > Candidate Ryan says he won’t quit over sex charges > > By Maura Kelly Lannan > The Associated Press > Published June 21, 2004, 9:01 PM CDT > > The former wife of Republican Senate candidate Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched. > > Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV’s “Boston Public” and “Star Trek: Voyager,” said in the documents that she angered Ryan by refusing. > > … > > She said that after going to dinner with Ryan in New York, he demanded she go to a club with him. > > “It was a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling,” she said. She said she refused when Ryan asked her to perform a sexual act while others watched. > > She said Ryan apologized after they left. But then, she said, he took her to Paris and again took her to a sex club. This was what Jack Ryan fought tooth and nail to not to be unsealed from their divorce records. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/2 "2004-06-22T04:19:14Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > No debate. Just a lovely vision to carry with you. From [The Chicago Tribune](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040621ryan,1,2197053.story?coll=chi-news-hed):This was what Jack Ryan fought tooth and nail to not to be unsealed from their divorce records. What am I weeping over? That Jeri Lynn Ryan doesn’t do sex acts on strangers? Or that her ex-husband is a apparently perv? It is, definitely, an odd sequence of wierdness on hubby’s part. ---
**Author:** ![caveman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caveman/32/7242_2.png) [@caveman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caveman)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/3 "2004-06-22T04:23:53Z")
Apparently, resistance was futile. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/4 "2004-06-22T04:36:59Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > What am I weeping over? That Jeri Lynn Ryan doesn’t do sex acts on strangers? Or that her ex-husband is a apparently perv? > > It is, definitely, an odd sequence of wierdness on hubby’s part. I am sorry that Jeri Ryan did not perform kinky sex acts in public, and if she had i would have been even sorrier if no one had had the presence of mind to make a video and/or take some photos. Preferably professional quality ones. But I’m hardly moved to tears. Mildly miffed is closer to the mark. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/5 "2004-06-22T04:38:38Z")
Sooo, was this an encounter with Species 6969? The story would be more (heh) titillating if Jeri had played along. Her refusal is kind of a let-down. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/6 "2004-06-22T04:41:42Z")
Seven of Nine was married to a Tom Clancy character? ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/7 "2004-06-22T05:02:10Z")
Doesn’t do much for _her_ rep one way or the other, but it sure doesn’t make HIM look very good… ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/8 "2004-06-22T05:17:11Z")
So close, and yet so far. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/9 "2004-06-22T06:08:16Z")
What a wet blanket. Why, one time, I had this 18" dildo shoved up my… Uh… Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/10 "2004-06-22T06:48:47Z")
I was always more of a B’ellana fan anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/11 "2004-06-22T06:53:28Z")
Suddenly, the plague-like spread of all those Clancy property spinoffs makes a _whooole_ lot more sense… “We are Rainbow Six. Resistance is Futile.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/12 "2004-06-22T07:16:24Z")
I wonder if asking her to wear her Borg costume during the performance was the deal breaker. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/13 "2004-06-22T12:02:44Z")
I remember reading about this guy in a George Will [column](http://www.townhall.com/columnists/georgewill/gw20031102.shtml) – poor George practically had an orgasm over him: > [@](#): > > If something seems too good to be true, it isn’t true. Something, or someone. > > Then along comes Jack Ryan. > > … > > Earlier he had been doing what his family has always done, which involves making the rest of us seem like moral slackers. To paraphrase the late comedian Bill Hicks, “Anybody that (perfect) is hiding a deep, dark secret”. ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/14 "2004-06-22T12:48:45Z")
Too bad for him; he was already going to lose that race by a landslide, now he’s just a punchline. Not that I have any sympathy for him or any of his ilk. This sort of public humiliation is known better by its common name, “karma”. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/15 "2004-06-22T13:15:11Z")
> [@F. U. Shakespeare](#): > > To paraphrase the late comedian Bill Hicks, “Anybody that (perfect) is hiding a deep, dark secret”. I dunno…if wanting kinky sex from his hottie wife is the worst thing this guy has ever done then that’s really not so bad. It certainly wouldn’t stop me from voting for the guy. > [@RTA](#): > > Not that I have any sympathy for him or any of his ilk. This sort of public humiliation is known better by its common name, “karma”. Karma for what? I’ll admit to not knowing anything about Ryan or his platform, but it seems to me that he’s been a pretty upright citizen. Went to college, made his money, taught in an inner-city school, never committed a crime. ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/16 "2004-06-22T13:37:37Z")
Yes yes, I know, “The Stepford Candidate” and all. It’s because Ryan had one of his campaign flunkies trail his opponent relentlessly with a video camera, hoping to get some dirt. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/17 "2004-06-22T13:45:38Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > I dunno…if wanting kinky sex from his hottie wife is the worst thing this guy has ever done then that’s really not so bad. And it’s not like the rest of us wouldn’t have volunteered for that particualr hazardous duty. I resent the hell out of Ryan, first for marrying her, then managing to cause her to leave him (what kinda loser…), then destroying her scary image by repeadtedly calling her the un-scary name of Jeri Lynn, and finally for consuming the first half of “Antiques Roadshow” with a news conference that consisted entirely of the exchange, “Are you sure you didn’t fight the release of your divorce records to prevent you embarassment?” “No, it was to prevent embarassing our poor, handicapped child who deserves to grow up believing his father isn’t some sort or pervert,” repeated for a full half hour. My wife expressed her disappointment with herself thusly, “They got divorced because she wouldn’t blow him in a Parisian sex club? I figured he had beat her. I have no imagination.” And some people think the days of the great Hollywood divorce are behind us. ---
**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/18 "2004-06-22T13:54:44Z")
This is clearly a calculated gambit to appeal to the vast block of Trekkie swing voters, who, if they had a chance to bang Jeri Ryan, would want to make sure to do it in as public a place as possible so that all of their friends would know that they were telling the truth about nailing her. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/19 "2004-06-22T14:06:28Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > I dunno…if wanting kinky sex from his hottie wife is the worst thing this guy has ever done then that’s really not so bad. It certainly wouldn’t stop me from voting for the guy. > > Karma for what? I’ll admit to not knowing anything about Ryan or his platform, but it seems to me that he’s been a pretty upright citizen. Went to college, made his money, taught in an inner-city school, never committed a crime. With Republican politicians, and many Dems as well, it’s not so much the sex acts as the fact that they put on a smarmy moral facade of righteousness wrt to any but the most timid expressions of sexuality. Anybody who’s trolling for religious conservative votes with anti-sex blah blah blah, who then gets caught doing the wango-tango in public is a fucking hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/20 "2004-06-22T14:59:20Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > Too bad for him; he was already going to lose that race by a landslide, now he’s just a punchline. > > Not that I have any sympathy for him or any of his ilk. This sort of public humiliation is known better by its common name, “karma”. Seein’ how it’s so funny, does that make him a “karma comedian”? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569.md?page=2)