# Read it and weep, Seven of Nine fans! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 22, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569 "2004-06-22T03:53:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/21 "2004-06-22T15:15:34Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Anybody who’s trolling for religious conservative votes… Now, now, now, we are wandering into GD or Pit territory. Though Ryan’s visible discomfiture could be enjoyed by some purely from a political standpoint, it was a special treat for those of us who like to see ANYBODY (but ourselves) knocked off their high horse. I believe I have mentioned how a few years ago my apolitical BIL got a cold call from the local Republican organization to see if he wanted to run for anything. They had been having a good run with guys named Ryan and as that is his last name… There haven’t been more calls since so many of the Illinois Ryans have been going down in flames lately. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/22 "2004-06-22T17:36:13Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > Yes yes, I know, “The Stepford Candidate” and all. > > It’s because Ryan had one of his campaign flunkies trail his opponent relentlessly with a video camera, hoping to get some dirt. Ah, I remember reading a Pit thread about that. OK, karma is richly deserved. ---
**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/23 "2004-06-22T17:56:22Z")
So, this means that Jeri Ryan is going to be available, right? All right. ---
**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/24 "2004-06-22T18:15:40Z")
> [@Strainger](#): > > So, this means that Jeri Ryan is going to be available, right? > > All right. That bus has left the station. Jeri Ryan, the object of every male Trek geek’s fantasy, is presently shacking up with Brannon Braga, a Trek writer/ producer. Mr. Braga, of course, is living the ultimate geek fantasy - getting paid to write Trek stories and sleeping with a hot Trek babe. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/25 "2004-06-22T18:41:51Z")
I’d just like to boast that I went to college with Jeri. I didn’t know her, but our pictures are a mere 15 pages apart in the yearbook. 🙂 Ok, that’s not exactly a Parisian sex club but you gotta start somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/26 "2004-06-22T20:06:37Z")
Me neither – but then, I’m a _swing_ voter. > [@Neurotik](#): > > I dunno…if wanting kinky sex from his hottie wife is the worst thing this guy has ever done then that’s really not so bad. It certainly wouldn’t stop me from voting for the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/27 "2004-06-22T21:13:14Z")
> [@F. U. Shakespeare](#): > > Me neither – but then, I’m a _swing_ voter. So that’s what that term means. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/28 "2004-06-22T21:27:15Z")
In terms of “being in a committed relationship with a hot famous woman and then screwing it up”, this guy’s right up there with Hugh Grant. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/29 "2004-06-23T01:16:39Z")
> [@](#): > > No debate. Just a lovely vision to carry with you. OK, how is a guy trying to force his wife into sex acts she doesn’t want a lovely vision? If a couple both consentually agrees for the wife to perform public sex acts, hey, fine, but this sounds awfully close to rape. Why would I get excited at the notion of a woman being raped? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/30 "2004-06-23T01:26:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, how is a guy trying to force his wife into sex acts she doesn’t want a lovely vision? If a couple both consentually agrees for the wife to perform public sex acts, hey, fine, but this sounds awfully close to rape. Why would I get excited at the notion of a woman being raped? Overreact much? ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/31 "2004-06-23T01:55:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, how is a guy trying to force his wife into sex acts she doesn’t want a lovely vision? If a couple both consentually agrees for the wife to perform public sex acts, hey, fine, but this sounds awfully close to rape. Why would I get excited at the notion of a woman being raped? Um. Because nowhere close to being a rape? He asked her, she said no, he complained a bit and they left. He didn’t beat her. He didn’t tie her down. He didn’t grab her head and try to shove her there. Remind me how this is anywhere near rape? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/32 "2004-06-23T03:53:24Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, how is a guy trying to force his wife into sex acts she doesn’t want a lovely vision? If a couple both consentually agrees for the wife to perform public sex acts, hey, fine, but this sounds awfully close to rape. Why would I get excited at the notion of a woman being raped? Ummm, because the lovely visions are all about Jeri Ryan having sex in public, rather than the force stuff? Or just Jeri Ryan having sex? Hey, but at least you got your ten cents worth of moral superiority here. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/33 "2004-06-23T19:55:42Z")
OK, Jeri Ryan having consentual sex in public is fine. I have no problem there. And her husband asking her is also OK: She turned him down, but he didn’t know she would. That’s why he asked. But the situation here is that he asked her repeatedly, and took her to such clubs many times, apparently without her knowledge that that’s where they were going. In fact, he bugged her so much about it that she divorced him. Obviously, she thought he was going way over the line. She really didn’t want him pushing her on this. And that’s what it comes down to: He was going further than she wanted. No, it’s not actually rape. It’s not nearly that bad. But it’s still a far cry from “lovely”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/34 "2004-06-23T20:18:11Z")
“Many times” in this case being twice. Most people aren’t going to consider being asked a question twice as coercive force. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/35 "2004-06-23T20:31:35Z")
Yes, **Chronos** , you found me out. There is nothing I like better than to see women forced into sexual bondage. :rolleyes: The thought of Jeri Ryan having sex in public can only turn me on if it is against her will. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I could go on but this would turn into a Pit thread. Suffice it to say that the lovely image in my head was of her agreeing enthusiastically to what her husband suggested. And I will admit to a certain pleasure watching Ryan’s election chances droop like his erection when Jeri started crying. I wish I could find the exact quote but it was something like, “Your tears aren’t helping the mood, honey.” ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/36 "2004-06-23T20:44:44Z")
It’s almost a shame … I was looking forward to Barack Obama cleaning Ryan’s clock in a fair fight this November; now Ryan is going to be hobbling into the ring with his trunks around his ankles, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/37 "2004-06-23T21:06:27Z")
[http://www.sj-r.com/Sections/News/Stories/28132.asp](http://www.sj-r.com/Sections/News/Stories/28132.asp) > [@](#): > > "At the Paris club, Jeri Ryan said, “people were having sex everywhere. I cried, I was physically ill. (Jack Ryan) became very upset with me and said it was not a ‘turn on’ for me to cry.” Truly Jack Ryan is a compassionate conservative. Yeah, that’s a shame. Nonsuch. There will be this cloud over Obama’s victory like like the cloud over Cincinatti’s victory in the 1919 World Series. ---
**Author:** ![YPOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@YPOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YPOD)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/38 "2004-06-23T22:20:53Z")
Ryan got Seven of Nine to marry him? Hell, he’s got my vote. Even if they did get divorced. By the way, maybe Jeri could whisper into Braga’s ear at night: “No more time travel, no more time travel, no more time travel, no more time travel,” and “Hoshi, Hoshi, Hoshi.” ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/39 "2004-06-23T23:36:45Z")
“Aw, c’mon honey, resistance is futile.” ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569/40 "2004-06-24T00:35:19Z")
I think Jeri Ryan is _very_ unattractive. I am clearly unusual for thinking this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-it-and-weep-seven-of-nine-fans/251569.md?page=3)