# Read the OP, people!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 8, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422 "2019-01-08T19:47:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/21 "2019-01-08T23:02:14Z")

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Coyotes are fictional?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/22 "2019-01-08T23:02:56Z")

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I can read the OP better and cheaper at home.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/23 "2019-01-08T23:06:41Z")

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I read between the lines. I KNOW what he really means.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/24 "2019-01-08T23:19:19Z")

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I think it’s important to add that canines are not just dogs. Canines in the wild, such as wolves and coyotes, are beautiful things, deserving of respect, and their well-being deserving of consideration for the benefit of all. They are definitely not “fictional”, and the suggestion of such by the OP is reprehensible.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/25 "2019-01-08T23:57:36Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Coyotes are fictional?

Not according to Michael Stipe.

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**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/26 "2019-01-09T00:26:04Z")

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I too enjoy reading old issues of OP magazine. They stopped print decades ago, but they’re great for the bathroom.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/27 "2019-01-09T00:47:07Z")

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I read the Occupation Permit and it says this thread is rated for a maximum of twenty posters.

We’re going to have to shut this thread down in the interests of online safety.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Burly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frank_burly/32/24_2.png) [@Frank\_Burly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_Burly)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/28 "2019-01-09T01:06:07Z")

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I agree that Bohemian Rhapsody shouldn’t have won Best Film at the Golden Globes. It didn’t even deserve to be nominated in that category.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/29 "2019-01-09T01:12:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I see this constantly–someone out of necessity gives a thread a breif title, then elaborates in the original post. Then follow dozens or hundreds of replies that do not fit the criteria for the OP, showing that responders didn’t bother to read the actual post before replying to the title. [The latest example is from CS](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868576), where someone asks about a fictional character meeting a real-life person _who isn’t being played by an actor_. What follows is–predictably–list after list of characters meeting a real-life character _who was played by an actor_. This is just one example, but you likely could dig up _hundreds_ of others if you try.

The problem I have with that thread is that half the examples listed by the OP are from books. The famous people who show up in the Harry Flashman books are no more the “real” versions of those people, then the famous people who show up in an episode of Dr. Who. But for some reason, the OP is okay with the former examples, but not with the latter. It’s pretty arbitrary, and I can’t really blame subsequent posters for not catching the distinction the OP is trying to make.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/30 "2019-01-09T01:19:28Z")

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Oh, and apparently it also doesn’t count if it’s a famous person playing themselves as a cameo, for some reason. So, apparently what he wants is movies and TV shows where they use found footage/images of a real famous person and incorporate it into the work, or any written work of fiction that mentions a real famous person in even the most tangential fashion - the OP includes a Sherlock Holmes story that broadly hints that Holmes met the Queen without actually mentioning her by name or describing the meeting directly.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/31 "2019-01-09T01:42:38Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Oh, and apparently it also doesn’t count if it’s a famous person playing themselves as a cameo, for some reason.

Nor does it seem to count if the famous person played themselves in a featured role, as happened on numerous episodes of _I Love Lucy_ (e.g., William Holden, Orson Welles, etc.), as well as _Being John Malkovich_ and _Zombieland_ (with Bill Murray playing Bill Murray).

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/32 "2019-01-09T01:46:19Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> the OP includes a Sherlock Holmes story that broadly hints that Holmes met the Queen without actually mentioning her by name or describing the meeting directly.
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> :rolleyes:

I’d say it pretty narrowly hints at it (the story take place in 1895):

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> Some weeks afterwards I learned incidentally that my friend spent a day at Windsor, whence he returned with a remarkably fine emerald tie-pin. When I asked him if he had bought it, he answered that it was a present from a certain gracious lady in whose interests he had once been fortunate enough to carry out a small commission. He said no more; but I fancy that I could guess at that lady’s august name, and I have little doubt that the emerald pin will forever recall to my friend’s memory the adventure of the Bruce-Partington plans.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/33 "2019-01-09T02:04:27Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> Really? We gotta do this thing about handshakes _again_? It’s not even the right month for that.

But isn’t January circumcision month except we started a month or two early? The schedule is all fucked up.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/34 "2019-01-09T02:27:10Z")

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Who has time to read the OP? There’s posting to be done!

And yes, I think the Cleveland Indians are going to take it ALL this summer!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/35 "2019-01-09T02:31:48Z")

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Cleveland Indians? I’m taking the Kansas City Chiefs.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/36 "2019-01-09T02:48:09Z")

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Let me post 20 links to my cat videos hosted on Photobucket.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/37 "2019-01-09T03:10:02Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Let me post 20 links to my cat videos hosted on Photobucket.

Please!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/38 "2019-01-09T03:23:27Z")

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I would look at that.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/39 "2019-01-09T03:50:56Z")

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I blame Facebook and Twitter. Well, at least in part. They’re participants in the shrinking of people’s attention span which is the real issue. More and more people just can’t be arsed to read more than a couple sentences at best, and in some cases, yes, people are just replying to the thread title by itself.

I haven’t always liked your replies to my posts but at least you took the time to read them.

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**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-the-op-people/827422/40 "2019-01-09T04:00:42Z")

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who would win a coyote or a tiger?

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