# Read this before commenting on the upgrade (please?)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224
**Category:** About This Message Board
**Created:** [January 13, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224 "2004-01-13T02:56:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/21 "2004-01-13T17:29:49Z")

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Oh, come on, people. WE’RE BACK UP!

Be grateful and patient. I’m sure the mods and admins are doing their best.

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### Author: ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/22 "2004-01-13T17:51:00Z")

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Yay! No more Casper smileys!

Does this mean that the columns will adjust again? I wanna be able to continue surfing the boards clandestinely at work…

Small window… need small window…

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### Author: ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/23 "2004-01-14T00:57:10Z")

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_You can tell it’s evil by the goatee!_

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### Author: ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/24 "2004-01-14T06:42:37Z")

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It sounds like the final appearance of the board hasn’t been decided on yet. Do we get to cast our votes?

Another vote for too narrow, and fonts too big. ☹ And I miss the reply field at the bottom of each thread. Other than that, change is good!

Uh… while we’re at it there’s plenty of room (on my screen anyways) for some more smileys. I have to comment that the SDMB smileys are IMO the best ones I’ve seen anywhere, but we could sure use a sick smiley and an “evil grin.”

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### Author: ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/25 "2004-01-14T19:06:05Z")

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Early yesterday morning–and today–I could not access the SDMB at all, getting a “Database Error” message instead. :mad:  
I am currently using a computer in a public library–Internet Exolorer.  
My home PC uses AOL 7.0. I have no problems reaching any other web page at home.  
I trust the bugs will be ironed out (bad metaphor) in due time.  
dougie\_monty

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### Author: ![robcaro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@robcaro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robcaro)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/26 "2004-01-14T19:09:02Z")

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It used to be slow at times, but now it is slower. I hope they can speed it up a lot.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/27 "2004-01-14T19:24:38Z")

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> [@robcaro](#):
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> It used to be slow at times, but now it is slower. I hope they can speed it up a lot.

Really? For me it seems more reliable - If it’s not working it tells me so (database error) and if it is working the waits aren’t too long.

Not like when you’d click submit and wait ten minutes for a dns error screen.  
(I must get rid of that sig. What seems like a good idea one day is _always_ a lame embarrasment the next)

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### Author: ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/28 "2004-01-14T20:15:36Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> Really? For me it seems more reliable - If it’s not working it tells me so (database error) and if it is working the waits aren’t too long.

Agreed. Used to be imposible for me to read or post at this time of day.

> [@](#):
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> (I must get rid of that sig. What seems like a good idea one day is _always_ a lame embarrasment the next)

Lame? It’s not lame. It’s actually very unique.

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### Author: ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/29 "2004-01-14T21:33:15Z")

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having very recently installed and adapted a vbulletin myself, I at first was sympathetic about this change, and understood why they were going to have to take some time to figure it all out.

But now, I can’t see why they have, from all outside appearances, not achieved anything. It takes about an hour to redesign the colours and styles and rearrange the pages. What’s holding them up?

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### Author: ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/30 "2004-01-14T23:08:55Z")

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i just want to know where to send the offerings of thanks (chocolate, beverages, sex slaves?). we have a great message board, cool (perhaps even a few nerdy) people, and a sponsor that gives us upgrades. a few bugs here and there, are small price to pay.

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### Author: ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/31 "2004-01-15T00:00:57Z")

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Why are the threads in reverse order, with the OP at the bottom and the most recent reply at the top, all of a sudden? And how do I turn them right-side-up?

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### Author: ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/32 "2004-01-15T00:44:17Z")

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**Shayna** , go to User CP \> Edit Options. There’s a pop-down menu under “Thread Display Mode”. If you have “Linear- Newest First” selected, that’s the cause of the problem. Choose “Linear- Oldest First” to restore sense to your world.

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### Author: ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/33 "2004-01-15T00:56:32Z")

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> [@AudreyK](#):
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> **Shayna** , go to User CP \> Edit Options. There’s a pop-down menu under “Thread Display Mode”. If you have “Linear- Newest First” selected, that’s the cause of the problem. Choose “Linear- Oldest First” to restore sense to your world.

Thanks, **Audrey** , that worked. However, I shouldn’t have had to go do that. Threads read just fine in the “Oldest First” order, right up until I posted my first reply in this new version, then it mysteriously reversed itself when my post displayed. If it does that every time I make a post, that’d be ridiculous.

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### Author: ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/34 "2004-01-15T01:27:46Z")

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Don’t find a way to change it, except unclick every time I post. 😉

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### Author: ![Ferris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ferris/32/11573_2.png) [@Ferris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferris)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/35 "2004-01-15T03:50:03Z")

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A bit surprised to see that images are now allowed. What’s the protocol on this regarding size, content, frequency, etc?

FWIW, actually seems a little quicker to me.

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### Author: ![robo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@robo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robo99)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/36 "2004-01-15T04:43:37Z")

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As another poster mentioned - this new look (albeit perhaps temporary) is narrow and not as functional. I used to be able to look at one page with tons of threads without scrolling - now it’s scrollarama. Most of the titles are now on two lines so they’re less readable.

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### Author: ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/37 "2004-01-15T07:23:17Z")

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> [@rocking chair](#):
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> a few bugs here and there, are small price to pay.

Even if  
those  
bugs  
limit  
the  
reada-  
bility  
of the  
board?

Seriously, I’m with **GuanoLad** here (and hopefully if enough of us complain about the page width the admins might do something about it).

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### Author: ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/38 "2004-01-15T08:05:08Z")

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> [@Ferris](#):
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> A bit surprised to see that images are now allowed. What’s the protocol on this regarding size, content, frequency, etc?
> 
> FWIW, actually seems a little quicker to me.

Images are not allowed. See the bottom of the page:

vB code is On  
Smilies are On  
[IMG] code is Off  
HTML code is Off

You can type it in, and it’s in the edit bar by default… but it won’t put an image in your post.

–OpalCat, who remembers when both images and HTML _were_ enabled…

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### Author: ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2004, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/39 "2004-01-15T11:21:39Z")

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> [@cityboy916](#):
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> Even if  
> those  
> bugs  
> limit  
> the  
> reada-  
> bility  
> of the  
> board?
> 
> Seriously, I’m with **GuanoLad** here (and hopefully if enough of us complain about the page width the admins might do something about it).

It seems that the most limiting feature of the new board is the fixed width. We will look into this, although I do not have official word on it from the CR techs yet. Rest assured we are aware of the issue and will work towards a solution. I shall update you with more information as and when it becomes available.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/read-this-before-commenting-on-the-upgrade-please/224224/40 "2004-01-16T15:05:03Z")

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Hmmm…

It’s been _quite_ a few days now and not a thing seems to have changed. Oh well, I’ll keep waiting.

If they’re not careful we’ll all get used to this design and moan when they start restoring the SDness of it (if they intend to that is)

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