# Reading for Comprehension Test - Just Like High School

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 13, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014 "2012-06-13T14:10:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/61 "2012-06-13T23:25:27Z")

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It’s clearly negative to both, but moreso to Pubbies.

It’s also extremely poorly written. The author fails on the basic notion that your writing should clearly state your ideas.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/62 "2012-06-13T23:28:53Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I didn’t want to skew anyone’s answers; I wanted the piece to be read _tabula rasa_.

I feel so used.

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/63 "2012-06-13T23:30:01Z")

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Other: disingenuous poll. I normally don’t respond to these, but this kind of seems to be the point, so what the hell.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/64 "2012-06-13T23:32:03Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> Other: disingenuous poll. I normally don’t respond to these, but this kind of seems to be the point, so what the hell.

Did you read the whole thread? This one is as surreal as Donald Trump suing Miss Pennsylvania.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/65 "2012-06-13T23:45:48Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> In your view, does elucidator actually condemn the Democrats in any meaningful,way in that post?

That’s the question you should’ve put in the poll. (well, the whole poll idea was dumb in any case, but if you had to open one, that question would’ve at least been an honest attempt to address the argument). Instead you asked a question that wasn’t debatable so that everyone would agree with you, despite the fact that the question was irrelevant to the actual argument.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/66 "2012-06-13T23:48:16Z")

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Uh… It means Pubbies have no sleeves?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/67 "2012-06-13T23:49:10Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Did you read the whole thread? This one is as surreal as Donald Trump suing Miss Pennsylvania.

Whups! Poor example. I’m only referring to the level of surreality. No equivalence with the main characters.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/68 "2012-06-14T04:34:09Z")

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Pubbies rhymes with chubbies. That is all.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/69 "2012-06-14T05:13:47Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Uh… It means Pubbies have no sleeves?

Where did Napoleon keep his pubbies?

In his sleevies!

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/70 "2012-06-14T10:47:00Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> But in either case, the poll is dishonest. The argument was whether or not **'luci** ever said a bad thing about the Dems actions in Mass. The poll asks a substantially different question: whether the passage quoted was **more** derogatory to the Dems or GOP.

This is a fair criticism, the poll was about the overall tone of the post, the claim was about whether the post included a condemnation of the democrats.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/71 "2012-06-14T10:57:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Same thing with elucidator’s post. He only mentioned something the Democrats had done wrong in order to condemn the Republicans for doing something much worse. That doesn’t qualify as a condemnation of the Democrats.

I think it’s a bit different. I don’t read this as suggesting the Democrats did anything wrong at all. If you believe they did something wrong, then you believe there was a right course of action that they didn’t choose.

Here are some quotes that I think are justifying the Dems course of action

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> They refused any accomodation to the facts, and dared the Dems to commit a sordid and partisan act. The Dems called
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> The point of such legal formalities is to protect the will of the people, no? Does anyone seriously doubt that the will of the people of Massachussets is to have a Dem take Kennedy’s seat?
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> If an action be perfectly legal and thwarts the will of the people, it is not legitimate. By the same token, if an action manifests that will, it carries a legitimacy.
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> The Pubbies could have avoided this outcome by \<snip\>
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> But they made a fight out of it hoping for just this result,

The Reps refused to accept the facts and forced the Dems to commit a partisan act. That act is legitimate because it manifests the will of the people. The Reps could have avoided the outcome, but fought in order to force the Dems to be partisan.

I don’t see much room here for the Dems to make different choice that elucidator would have considered “right”.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reading-for-comprehension-test-just-like-high-school/625014/72 "2012-06-15T02:42:57Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Remember to use a #2 pencil and fill in the oval completely (and to answer the poll!).

I have a #2 pencil mark on my screen now. ☹

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