# Reagan the greatest American???

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 27, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978 "2005-06-27T01:41:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/61 "2005-06-27T15:49:57Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> But what is your counter-argument? You’ve made _my_ points.

Then I misread your post. Sorry. (It’s been a long weekend, and I’m stuffed to the gills with PA history as it is.)

Robin

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/62 "2005-06-27T15:54:44Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Lincoln was #2
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> Dr. King was #3.
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> Jesus wasn’t American.
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> Duhbya was #6.
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> More rigging.

Really? Check [this site](http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html) out. It’ll clear things up for you greatly.

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**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/63 "2005-06-27T15:58:55Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> The people get what government they deserve. If they think Reagan is the greatest and W is #6, then the people deserve them.

I generally agree, but the problem is the rest of us who don’t think that get it too. :eek:

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/64 "2005-06-27T16:08:25Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Sure, he was born in New York, moved to Oz as a kid.
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> Note: talking funny don’t make you un-American.
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> 😉

Actually, Gibson sounds more like an American than an Australian to me anyway. His Aussie accent has pretty much disappeared.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/65 "2005-06-27T16:10:33Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> Oprah WInfrey???

Oprah Winfrey ahead of Eleanor Roosevelt and Rosa Parks, no less. Good grief.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/66 "2005-06-27T18:06:48Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> The people get what government they deserve. If they think Reagan is the greatest and W is #6, then the people deserve them.

[The Onion]  
“They say people get the government they deserve. Which is odd, because I don’t remember knife-raping any retarded nuns”  
[/The Onion]

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/67 "2005-06-27T18:14:55Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> Gates??, GATES?? i think not, perhaps if the poll was top 100 most _EVIL_ americans, yes, but gates doesn’t even deserve to be on the list…

This is exactly why I was hoping for that 1-2 combo. It would have caused a complete meltdown for some. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/68 "2005-06-27T19:32:31Z")

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For some reason I am having a hard time getting worked up over a phone-in popularity contest. I would’ve voted for Washington, but then again I never even thought to vote.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/69 "2005-06-27T19:32:44Z")

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Glad to oblige, hope you enjoyed it 😉

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/70 "2005-06-27T19:34:28Z")

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> [@Gamaliel](#):
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> I generally agree, but the problem is the rest of us who don’t think that get it too. :eek:

I feel your pain. I also blame Reagan and Bush on all of us who obviously didn’t work hard enough to stop them. For our failures in trying to convince our countrymen to vote otherwise, we deserve them too.

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/71 "2005-06-27T22:54:14Z")

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What???!!! No **Batman** , **Abbie Hoffman** , **Bettie Page** or **Cecil** on the list?

That’s just sad.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/72 "2005-06-28T00:15:20Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Look at the bright side: within a week, nobody will remember this show, either.
> 
> Daniel

What show?

[sub]I decided to respond early[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/73 "2005-06-28T06:32:50Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Then I misread your post. Sorry. (It’s been a long weekend, and I’m stuffed to the gills with PA history as it is.)
> 
> Robin

I don’t think you misread anything, **MsRobyn** ; **Liberal** reasons from postulates that are very different from yours or mine. The authority of the government to tax is an absolutely bad thing in his eyes, an unconscionable coercion.

Me, I think Washington was a bit of a stuffed shirt, and while I admire Jefferson tremendously, his notions of democracy would have crippled America. My vote for greatest American would have gone to Alexander Hamilton.

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**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/74 "2005-06-28T07:28:46Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> Gates??, GATES?? i think not, perhaps if the poll was top 100 most _EVIL_ americans, yes, but gates doesn’t even deserve to be on the list…

I don’t get it. In what way is he evil?

[http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2005/06/28/gates\_grants\_aim\_to\_boost\_global\_health/](http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2005/06/28/gates_grants_aim_to_boost_global_health/)

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/75 "2005-06-28T10:28:11Z")

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If you judge ‘greatness’ by the wait time at their funearal Reagan is pretty far up there.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/76 "2005-06-28T10:45:29Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nonsense, otherwise Clinton would have been ahead of Reagan.

Nonsense. The Reagan memorial-funeral-burial-clambake-and-garage-sale, with all its attendant praise and walks down memory lane, came after Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reagan-the-greatest-american/309978/77 "2005-06-28T12:33:40Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> This is very much a what have you done for me lately culture.

> [@Liberal](#):
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> Nonsense. The Reagan memorial-funeral-burial-clambake-and-garage-sale, with all its attendant praise and walks down memory lane, came after Clinton.

So what Reagan did for us lately is die?

I guess we’ll see if Clinton’s funeral puts him ahead of Bush and/or Reagan.

Regards,  
Shodan

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