# Real Living People In Novels

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 6, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911 "2012-02-06T00:21:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911/41 "2012-02-07T19:15:53Z")

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Colin Firth has a cameo appearance in one of the Bridget Jones novels.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911/42 "2012-02-07T19:50:13Z")

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> [@charmstr](#):
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> I’m surprised no one has mentioned _Shoeless Joe_ by W. P. Kinsella (adapted to film as _Field of Dreams_), where one of the major characters is J.D. Salinger. Maybe because that was changed for the film?

That’s the first one I thought of- and small wonder J.D. Salinger was outraged.

Think of all the psychopaths who are devoted to\*\*\* Catcher in the Rye\*\*\*, and who think Salinger is the one person who understands them!

Salinger was already living in seclusion, partly because he was afraid of the kinds of people who were obsessed with him. Now, imagine that one of these crazies started “hearing voices” telling him to kidnap Salinger!

Can you see why he was less than thrilled with that plotline? And why, at his insistence, he was replaced in the movie by a fictitious author played by James Earl Jones?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911/43 "2012-02-07T19:54:06Z")

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Ursula Andress, who played Honey Ryder in the James Bond film **Dr. No** , shows up in Fleming’s **On Her Majesty’s Secret Service**. She’s described as having a fresh tan, as you’d expect if she had been filming in Jamaica before going to ski in the Alps.

Similarly, in one of John Gardner’s James Bond novels he mentions Bond watching an in-flight movie about Prohibition agents that starred a Scottish actor that he particularly liked. But he gave no names.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911/44 "2012-02-07T20:05:04Z")

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IIRC, in Whitley Streiber and James Kunetka’s **War Day** , the authors are the main characters and they visit fellow writers Chelsea Quinn Yarbro and Walter Tevis (who was alive at the time).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911/45 "2012-02-07T20:08:44Z")

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Asimov is yet another author who’s written himself into one of his own books (_Murder at the ABA_). And Heinlein included thinly-veiled pastiches of himself and other SF authors at the end of _The Number of the Beast_.

I have an uncle who’s the chief of a suburban police force, and got a cameo (with the author’s permission) in a murder mystery set there.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/real-living-people-in-novels/611911/46 "2012-02-08T03:48:53Z")

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As the pattern indicates that living people appear in novels only if they’re too famous to notice as with Presidents and such, are friends of the authors, or the authors themselves, it’s simple to assume that there are legal ramifications for depicting a living person in a fictional context. Any lawyers here who can confirm?

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