Yes, that’s why I said he mixed up what the actual law was and what proposals for legal changes were:
That said, he’s not wrong about two things: that people did and do want to remove sex from birth certificates, and that this is a stupid idea that will hurt us in elections.
You are right, the specific claim he made - that the law in California took sex off the birth certificate - is incorrect.
What is not incorrect is the idea that many people who are to the left of the Democratic party mainstream do support taking sex of the birth certificate.
So just so we are clear; you think that it’s a dumb idea and if PA or CA or any other state did take sex off the birth certificate, you’d oppose that idea, right?
The California bill that allows residents to obtain gender-neutral birth certificates was the first of its kind when it was signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown in October 2017. “Gender identification is fundamentally personal,” the bill reads, “and the state should endeavor to provide options on state-issued identification documents that recognize a person’s accurate gender identification.” These L.A. parents don’t want to assign a gender to their baby, so the government did it for them - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
I don’t watch or listen to a lot of podcasts so I may have to withdraw that claim. What I meant was that, in contrast to the HBO show, the podcast consisted of Maher and his guest having drinks, Maher possibly smoking a joint, and just chatting over dim lamplight with no particular time limit. I just think it’s a neat idea, and didn’t seem to me like a typical subject-focused podcast.
Thank you for a link that, again, demonstrates that Maher was spreading lies with utterly no self awareness.
I’ll note that your flippant claim, with no evidence and now, admitted, no basis at all, that Maher originated this format, is like a little baby junior version of Maher’s own arrogant bullshit. Congrats for emulating your idol so closely!
Maher implied that California just removed sex from the birth certificate, which was not done.
What iiandyiiii conveniently ignores is the fact that there was quite a bit of support for such a law; and what he is a giant hypocrite about is the fact that he undoubtedly would agree with such a law, which is why he is avoiding answering the question of whether he would oppose this if it was the case.
Imagine if you will a Kansas Republican, who supported the 2022 abortion ban, but who when asked “why do Kansas Republicans oppose abortion access” responds with “What do you mean, you liar? Did we ban abortion? No? So why do you say we oppose it?”. Andy is doing the equivalent of that.
“Don’t put sex on the birth certificate” describes exactly what California parents are able to ask for. I’m not arguing about whether this is right or wrong, but this is certainly very far removed from the idea that sex is fixed at birth and invariant. Maher has his issues and I don’t always agree with him, but accusing him of “lying” in this case is just stupid.
Another lie about me! What a shock. Especially when I just said, in crystal clear language, that the gender box should remain on birth certificates, and it should be up to parents, not government, to decide what goes in it.
The exact quote was “Don’t put sex on the birth certificate - we’ll see”. That is in fact exactly what the California law allows parents to choose to do, isn’t it?