# Reality

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 16, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101 "2011-05-16T16:40:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/1 "2011-05-16T16:40:04Z")

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I believe in wicthes, giants, unicorns, vampires, and werewolves, and curses.

I believe reality is much different than the atheist/agnostic rationalist, Neo-Darwinian mindset tells us that it is.

I believe in different dimensions beyond the four we can measure. I believe in astral projection (though I do not practice it). I believe in the transformation of matter of objects from one place to another.

Well, how’s that for starters on this board?

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/2 "2011-05-16T16:42:55Z")

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Got evidence?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/3 "2011-05-16T16:44:14Z")

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Not so good, although you are allowed to witness in this forum. Won’t get you very far, but you’re allowed to do it.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/4 "2011-05-16T16:47:25Z")

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> [@tim314](#):
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> Got evidence?

Sure.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/5 "2011-05-16T16:49:05Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Not so good, although you are allowed to witness in this forum. Won’t get you very far, but you’re allowed to do it.

Witness? Witness what?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/6 "2011-05-16T16:49:48Z")

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> [@Rex\_Lex](#):
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> I believe in wicthes, giants, unicorns, vampires, and werewolves, and curses.
> 
> I believe reality is much different than the atheist/agnostic rationalist, Neo-Darwinian mindset tells us that it is.
> 
> I believe in different dimensions beyond the four we can measure. I believe in astral projection (though I do not practice it). I believe in the transformation of matter of objects from one place to another.
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> Well, how’s that for starters on this board?

That’s nice. I’m happy for you. You are free to believe anything you want. So what?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/7 "2011-05-16T16:49:57Z")

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I’ll bite. Why do you believe in that stuff?

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/8 "2011-05-16T16:51:27Z")

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If you do witness any vampires or werewolves in the forum, by all means let us know. But most of the monsters around these parts are just your garden-variety trolls.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/9 "2011-05-16T16:52:05Z")

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> [@Rex\_Lex](#):
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> Witness? Witness what?

“Witnessing” means you can come in here and state some religious belief without giving any evidence to back up that belief. That’s what you did in your OP.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/10 "2011-05-16T16:53:46Z")

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> [@tim314](#):
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> If you do witness any vampires or werewolves in the forum, by all means let us know. But most of the monsters around these parts are just your garden-variety trolls.

And the occasional zombie.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/11 "2011-05-16T16:56:19Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> That’s nice. I’m happy for you. You are free to believe anything you want. So what?

Hmm, how nice. So are you.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/12 "2011-05-16T16:57:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> “Witnessing” means you can come in here and state some religious belief without giving any evidence to back up that belief. That’s what you did in your OP.

Did I say even one word about religion?

I sure know where your prejudices are, fella.😉

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/13 "2011-05-16T16:58:49Z")

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> [@tim314](#):
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> If you do witness any vampires or werewolves in the forum, by all means let us know. But most of the monsters around these parts are just your garden-variety trolls.

Well, I am sure I will be accused of that, probably within the hour.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/14 "2011-05-16T16:58:59Z")

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> [@Rex\_Lex](#):
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> Sure.

And that evidence is…?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/15 "2011-05-16T17:00:54Z")

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Why do you think any of us will or should care what you think?

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/16 "2011-05-16T17:03:13Z")

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> [@Rex\_Lex](#):
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> Sure.

Well, I’m convinced.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/17 "2011-05-16T17:03:15Z")

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> [@Rex\_Lex](#):
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> Did I say even one word about religion?

One needn’t mention the word “religion” in order to witness about religion. If you want to make a distinction between magic and religion, have at it. You won’t get very far on this MB.

Your OP was witnessing. You are allowed to do that. You will be ridiculed and laughed at on this MB if you continue to do that, and if that’s what you came here for, then you will be very successful.

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> I sure know where your prejudices are, fella.😉

No, you don’t.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/18 "2011-05-16T17:03:49Z")

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> [@Rex\_Lex](#):
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> I believe in wicthes, giants, unicorns, vampires, and werewolves, and curses.
> 
> I believe reality is much different than the atheist/agnostic rationalist, Neo-Darwinian mindset tells us that it is.
> 
> I believe in different dimensions beyond the four we can measure. I believe in astral projection (though I do not practice it). I believe in the transformation of matter of objects from one place to another.
> 
> Well, how’s that for starters on this board?

As you believe in supernatural effecting our 3D+1 observable universe many here believe in the physical 3D+1 is enough to explain everything (even if we never obtain that level of understanding).

I find that the supernatural explanations to be more satisfying and more accurate and more helpful to a person in their life then the natural 3d+1 explanations.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/19 "2011-05-16T17:06:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And that evidence is…?

Again, let me explain where I am coming from:

[![](https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/Dragondino.jpg) ](https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/Dragondino.jpg)

I see no difference between dinosaurs such as this fossil dug up in Argentina and the ones described and drawn from ancient written history.

Witches:

[![](https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/StevieNicks.jpg) ](https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/Martyrs5/StevieNicks.jpg)

Stevie Nicks. A full blow witch. There are many more I could post.

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**Author:** ![Rex\_Lex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rex\_Lex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Lex)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reality/582101/20 "2011-05-16T17:08:17Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> As you believe in supernatural effecting our 3D+1 observable universe many here believe in the physical 3D+1 is enough to explain everything (even if we never obtain that level of understanding).
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> I find that the supernatural explanations to be more satisfying and more accurate and more helpful to a person in their life then the natural 3d+1 explanations.

O.K. thanks.

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