# Realized conservatives are major hypocrits about terrorism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917 "2015-09-29T03:50:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/1 "2015-09-29T03:50:09Z")
Conservatives are always talking about how we need to protect the country from terrorists. Timothy Mcveigh was a conservative. So was Anders Behring Breivik. Most anti-abortionists (who commit a lot of terrorist attacks in the USA) and white supremacists(ditto) are also conservative. Perhaps all their paranoia about Islamic terrorism is just a way to distract everyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/2 "2015-09-29T04:38:41Z")
As much as I hate these guys…no. Nearly all conservatives denounce abortion-clinic violence. The farthest that core conservatives will go is to approve non-violent clinic blockades (or “rescues”) where access is denied, briefly and symbolically. (They know they can’t maintain a permanent blockade; they just want to turn a few women back, to make news headlines.) Conservatism is largely about “Law and Order.” Terrorism is disorderly. They talk some about the “Second Amendment Solution,” but they know that isn’t how social change happens in the U.S. Americans run riot symbolically, in November of even-numbered years: conservatives and liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/3 "2015-09-29T04:56:29Z")
These clowns are first and foremost disturbed people. If you’re going to say right-wing ideologies promote their terrorist activities, why not include religion? Brevik described himself as 100 percent christian. But then again, McVeigh was Roman catholic and wasn’t really a part of his church. The KKK is primarily christian, but they cherry-pick bible verses only to vaguely support their claim of white supremacy. How about military experience? There’s a large influence with many terrorist groups and individuals (McVeigh was awarded some military medals), but again, the number of people with military experience involved with shit like terrorism is very small. And it certainly isn’t a requirement to have ME when joining a racist gang. The words conservatives use are becoming too violent and resemble something a terrorist might say-- target for reform, war on christianity, etc.-- but I don’t see them telling people to grab their guns and start shooting before they come and take them. They use those words to grab votes. I really don’t think hearing violent words all the time make people violent in everyday life. So it still comes down to how these assholes react to society and how their brains are wired. ---
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/4 "2015-09-29T05:36:24Z")
Muslims killed more Americans on one day than right-wing terrorists, combined and across countries, have killed in years. But I wouldn’t want to interrupt your desperate spiel about how awful conservatives are and how Muslims are totally non-violent. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/5 "2015-09-29T05:49:09Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > Conservatives are always talking about how we need to protect the country from terrorists. Timothy Mcveigh was a conservative. So was Anders Behring Breivik. Most anti-abortionists (who commit a lot of terrorist attacks in the USA) and white supremacists(ditto) are also conservative. Perhaps all their paranoia about Islamic terrorism is just a way to distract everyone else? No. Even when we had a bunch of idiots trying to make out that lone wolf terrorism is worse than Islamic terrorism based on deceptive research that explicitly excludes the biggest Islamic terrorist attack yet _still_ needs to omit other Islamic terrorist attacks like the Beltway snipers in violation of their stated criteria, that stacking of the deck only allowed them to say that Muslim terrorists killed the same number of people as right-wing terrorists, despite there being ten times more Republicans than Muslims in America. TL;DR: 30 million American Republicans kill less people in terrorist attacks than 3 million American Muslims. Anyone trying to make out that right-wing terrorists are the _real_ threat doesn’t know what they’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/6 "2015-09-29T06:26:40Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > Muslims killed more Americans on one day than right-wing terrorists, combined and across countries, have killed in years. But I wouldn’t want to interrupt your desperate spiel about how awful conservatives are and how Muslims are totally non-violent. We killed somewhere north of a hundred thousand Iraqis, pretty much all Muslims, since shrapnel has no known religious preference. So, they’re pretty much totally non-violent now. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/7 "2015-09-29T06:36:11Z")
The vast right wing conspiracy to distract us from domestic terror also distracts us from some of the other major groups behind domestic terror - anarchists and eco-terrorists. Are we calling those conservative groups now? ---
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/8 "2015-09-29T06:51:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We killed somewhere north of a hundred thousand Iraqis, pretty much all Muslims, since shrapnel has no known religious preference. So, they’re pretty much totally non-violent now. There’s a difference between war and terrorism. Besides, we were talking about America. Whether some third-worlder dies in a faraway land isn’t really relevant to who commits more terrorism in America. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/9 "2015-09-29T06:54:04Z")
Most domestic terrorists are either individuals or very small groups. There aren’t any significant domestic terrorist organizations that are trying to cause some political change. So domestic terrorists in America are essentially outside the political system. They’re more akin to criminals like serial killers. ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/10 "2015-09-29T10:40:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Most domestic terrorists are either individuals or very small groups. There aren’t any significant domestic terrorist organizations that are trying to cause some political change. There has been one for 150 years. It’s called the KKK. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/11 "2015-09-29T10:44:40Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > Muslims killed more Americans on one day than right-wing terrorists, combined and across countries, have killed in years. But I wouldn’t want to interrupt your desperate spiel about how awful conservatives are and how Muslims are totally non-violent. In the 2 posts before yours, who said “Muslims are totally non-violent”? > [@Construct](#): > > There’s a difference between war and terrorism. Besides, we were talking about America. Whether some third-worlder dies in a faraway land isn’t really relevant to who commits more terrorism in America. Anders Behring Breivik was committing terrorism in America? ---
**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/12 "2015-09-29T12:26:05Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > There has been one for 150 years. It’s called the KKK. How are the KKK in any way significant in 21st century America? And what terror attacks are they perpetuating? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/13 "2015-09-29T12:48:12Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > Muslims killed more Americans on one day than right-wing terrorists, combined and across countries, have killed in years. But I wouldn’t want to interrupt your desperate spiel about how awful conservatives are and how Muslims are totally non-violent. And Christians murdered six million Jews during WW II. Your point was what? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/14 "2015-09-29T13:20:29Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > Muslims killed more Americans on one day than right-wing terrorists, combined and across countries, have killed in years. But I wouldn’t want to interrupt your desperate spiel about how awful conservatives are and how Muslims are totally non-violent. _Conservative_ Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/15 "2015-09-29T13:50:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We killed somewhere north of a hundred thousand Iraqis, pretty much all Muslims, since shrapnel has no known religious preference. So, they’re pretty much totally non-violent now. And that’s disappointing but fortunately the U.S. military is constantly improving its technology so that in the future our aim will hopefully be better 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/16 "2015-09-29T13:58:13Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > Conservatives are always talking about how we need to protect the country from terrorists. Timothy Mcveigh was a conservative. So was Anders Behring Breivik. Most anti-abortionists (who commit a lot of terrorist attacks in the USA) and white supremacists(ditto) are also conservative. Perhaps all their paranoia about Islamic terrorism is just a way to distract everyone else? Ya know…I read stuff like this, and all I can think is: clowns like this are why Obama got elected. Twice. They live in a fantasy land of rainbows and unicorn farts, but unfortunately, they come out of it to vote. And then we that live in the real world have to suffer the results of their idiocy. Boffking, might I suggest that you actually take the time to learn something about conservatism before making a fool of yourself in public like that? Oh, who am I kidding? Like that will actually happen. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/17 "2015-09-29T14:05:03Z")
This thread sums up conservatism quite well. We have the anti-Muslim bigots, the anti-brown people bigots, we have the Christian hypocrites, we have the delusional Texans, and we have the “third-worlders die - who cares?” assholes. Seems pretty comprehensive to me. ---
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/18 "2015-09-29T15:44:20Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > And Christians murdered six million Jews during WW II. Your point was what? Hate to break it to you, [but Hitler was one of yours.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler) > [@silenus](#): > > This thread sums up conservatism quite well. We have the anti-Muslim bigots, the anti-brown people bigots, we have the Christian hypocrites, we have the delusional Texans, and we have the “third-worlders die - who cares?” assholes. Seems pretty comprehensive to me. I’m pretty sure all of those are meant to only describe me (well, I’m not a Texan). The vast majority of conservatives are desperate to signal that they aren’t racist. FYI: it’s not bigotry if it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/19 "2015-09-29T15:57:31Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > If you’re going to say right-wing ideologies promote their terrorist activities, why not include religion? Brevik described himself as 100 percent christian. But then again, McVeigh was Roman catholic and wasn’t really a part of his church. The KKK is primarily christian, but they cherry-pick bible verses only to vaguely support their claim of white supremacy. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > And Christians murdered six million Jews during WW II. Your point was what? I suppose it’s asking too much to ask liberals to get their facts straight. . . . There is no such thing as a Christian in the KKK. Never has been, never will be. There was no Nazi who was a Christian, either. Christians do not hate people–you may have heard the saying, “hate the sin, but love the sinner.” “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.” (I John 3:15) “If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?” (I John 4:20) ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/realized-conservatives-are-major-hypocrits-about-terrorism/732917/20 "2015-09-29T16:02:44Z")
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