# Really Guys? AKA Sexism on the Board **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633 "2017-07-06T18:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/181 "2017-07-09T17:28:18Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I suspect that if we met in real life you would find me eminently affable with a charming wit scarce among most men, **particularly of my age.** C’mon now. I really want to know. How old are you? > [@TroutMan](#): > > The delusion in your post is astounding. I look forward to eventually meeting the OP sometime (Portland Dopefest, **Sunny Daze**?) and am sure I will enjoy her company. I look forward to meeting you too. Portland Dopefest sounds awesome. The Eclipsefest didn’t work out, but we’ll get something organized on a less hectic occasion. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/182 "2017-07-09T18:09:02Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Ah, the old “if you don’t agree with me no one will love you and you’ll die alone, unloved, and pathetic”. > > Ranks right up there with “you’ll never work in this town again!”. > > In other words - overreact much? Or just here,\*\* Stringbean?\*\* The part about her not scoring a long-term relationship w/ a man (great hetero-normative qualifier, btw) in her hysterical state is a scream considering the OP’s married. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/183 "2017-07-09T18:14:29Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > The part about her not scoring a long-term relationship w/ a man (great hetero-normative qualifier, btw) in her hysterical state is a scream considering the OP’s married. 25 years last May. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/184 "2017-07-09T18:33:52Z")
I’ve gotten the same thing, even here on this board. Threatened mansplainers try to pigeonhole evil feminists as man-hating and unloveable. I love men, particularly the one I’ve been with for 15 years. I also love dropping that bombshell. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/185 "2017-07-09T18:52:38Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > 25 years last May. 😃 > [@Helena330](#): > > I’ve gotten the same thing, even here on this board. Threatened mansplainers try to pigeonhole evil feminists as man-hating and unloveable. I love men, particularly the one I’ve been with for 15 years. I also love dropping that bombshell. 😃 Clearly still in the infatuation stages and \*both \*of you wicked harpies will be dumped when your TRUE man-hating ways show, obviously! ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/186 "2017-07-09T20:07:21Z")
Stringbean’s posts unintentionally makes manifest the genius of the [Men Going Their Own Way](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way) movement. Because no one in MGTOW would errantly tell a woman that no man would ever want her. Rather, such a man would try to avoid women, and if he did interact, he would insult ANY man who would ever get in a relationship with, marry or remain married to a woman with devastating putdowns like beta, cuck and bluepilled. So say what you will about MGTOW and how something like this can even be a movement but these guys once they know what they’re doing never lose internet disagreements. Even if Stringbean is not going his own way, he might shoot himself in the foot less if he pretends to be or adopts that mindset when online anonymously. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/187 "2017-07-09T20:55:39Z")
> [@yezlles](#): > > Stringbean’s posts unintentionally makes manifest the genius of the [Men Going Their Own Way](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way) movement. Because no one in MGTOW would errantly tell a woman that no man would ever want her. Rather, such a man would try to avoid women, and if he did interact, he would insult ANY man who would ever get in a relationship with, marry or remain married to a woman with devastating putdowns like beta, cuck and bluepilled. So say what you will about MGTOW and how something like this can even be a movement but these guys once they know what they’re doing never lose internet disagreements. Even if Stringbean is not going his own way, he might shoot himself in the foot less if he pretends to be or adopts that mindset when online anonymously. If you look at their posting history, they’ve been a consistently immature, at least slightly misogynist character throughout. W/ unflattering things to say about most women they mention (who gets mad at an actress like Flo from GEICO??), I don’t see anything redeemable in whatever persona they’re putting forth. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/188 "2017-07-10T03:35:25Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …the original premise was this: > > This is the fucking pit. People come here to rant, hyperbole is to be expected. If people are going to exhibit blatantly obvious sexist behaviour then why the fuck are we giving them the benefit of the doubt? > > This is where Richard Parker has gone wrong. > > Merneith is not expressing leftist discourse, learnt through academia and then propagated through social media. Merneith is simply pissed off: and deservedly pissed off, and is using the pit as intended to rant. Richard Parker is lecturing Merneith for being angry. Thats tone policing (no matter how much Richard disagrees with that characterization) with a measure of mansplaining added in. I respect Richard Parker. But he is coming off as a condescending ass here. “Mansplaining” used non ironically in a thread about the evils of non human sexists is precious. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/189 "2017-07-10T03:58:56Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > If you look at their posting history, they’ve been a consistently immature, at least slightly misogynist character throughout. W/ unflattering things to say about most women they mention (who gets mad at an actress like Flo from GEICO??), I don’t see anything redeemable in whatever persona they’re putting forth. More people get mad at Flo from Progressive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/190 "2017-07-10T05:33:35Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > “Mansplaining” used non ironically in a thread about the evils of non human sexists is precious. …who the fuck are you again? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/191 "2017-07-10T06:05:03Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …who the fuck are you again? Anyone but me hear that in Samuel L. Jackson’s voice? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/192 "2017-07-10T06:14:16Z")
Well, if octopus has a better succinct term for “too common phenomenon in which men condescendingly talk over women, even those with more expertise or intelligence than them,” then he should feel free to propose one. I for one would be interested. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/193 "2017-07-10T06:15:33Z")
I went in for an initial 15-minute interview for a job last week. This was with a department supervisor who was a straight-laced Asian woman in her mid-30s. After an hour, she felt obliged to bring in the Division Director, a friendly white woman in her early 50s. After speaking with her for an hour, I was offered the job on the spot. Now, I offer this because, believe it or not, I am masterful when it comes to interacting with women in professional settings. Because I am articulate, insightful, and honest. And most of all because I understand decorum and how to present myself as effectively as possible without seeming arrogant or pompous. I come here to speak the truths that polite society doesn’t afford me and do so fairly liberally when I see something that simply strains credibility. I can’t truly believe that a joke about sharing women in a Gilligan’s Island type scenario renders the balanced adult apoplectic. **On the internet.** This isn’t the quarterly executives meeting. If it were, a tactless remark like that would render _me_ apoplectic as it reflects a lack of professionalism unbecoming the circumstance. As it stands, The Straight Dope is an internet forum home to some great intellectual discourse and some blindingly inane over-reactions. If I care to call that out from time to time, that is my prerogative. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/194 "2017-07-10T06:52:39Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I went in for an initial 15-minute interview for a job last week. This was with a department supervisor who was a straight-laced Asian woman in her mid-30s. > > After an hour, she felt obliged to bring in the Division Director, a friendly white woman in her early 50s. After speaking with her for an hour, I was offered the job on the spot. > > Now, I offer this because, believe it or not, I am masterful when it comes to interacting with women in professional settings. Because I am articulate, insightful, and honest. And most of all because I understand decorum and how to present myself as effectively as possible without seeming arrogant or pompous. > > I come here to speak the truths that polite society doesn’t afford me and do so fairly liberally when I see something that simply strains credibility. I can’t truly believe that a joke about sharing women in a Gilligan’s Island type scenario renders the balanced adult apoplectic. **On the internet.** > > This isn’t the quarterly executives meeting. If it were, a tactless remark like that would render _me_ apoplectic as it reflects a lack of professionalism unbecoming the circumstance. > > As it stands, The Straight Dope is an internet forum home to some great intellectual discourse and some blindingly inane over-reactions. If I care to call that out from time to time, that is my prerogative. Sounds like you consider us beneath you, yet you insist on defending yourself to us. Weird. As if you can’t bear for us to think we’re right about your internal ugliness and how you see people as parts defined by age/race/gender rather than whole people. You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity. But you’ll no longer have my attention. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/195 "2017-07-10T06:53:36Z")
NVM. **Nawth Chucka** got there first. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/196 "2017-07-10T07:10:26Z")
Stringbean, most likely your carefully cultivated persona isn’t as ironclad as you think. To be a fly on the wall when those intelligent women figure out you’re a patronizing asshole…Because they will. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/197 "2017-07-10T13:18:10Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I went in for an initial 15-minute interview for a job last week. This was with a department supervisor who was a straight-laced Asian woman in her mid-30s. > > After an hour, she felt obliged to bring in the Division Director, a friendly white woman in her early 50s. After speaking with her for an hour, I was offered the job on the spot. > > Now, I offer this because, believe it or not, I am masterful when it comes to interacting with women in professional settings. Because I am articulate, insightful, and honest. And most of all because I understand decorum and how to present myself as effectively as possible without seeming arrogant or pompous. > > I come here to speak the truths that polite society doesn’t afford me and do so fairly liberally when I see something that simply strains credibility. I can’t truly believe that a joke about sharing women in a Gilligan’s Island type scenario renders the balanced adult apoplectic. **On the internet.** > > This isn’t the quarterly executives meeting. If it were, a tactless remark like that would render _me_ apoplectic as it reflects a lack of professionalism unbecoming the circumstance. > > As it stands, The Straight Dope is an internet forum home to some great intellectual discourse and some blindingly inane over-reactions. If I care to call that out from time to time, that is my prerogative. You remind me of a guy who worked for me. I didn’t hire him, I inherited him. He was generally fine - 99% of the time. But there were two times that his views betrayed him. He was ambitious - and frankly thought he should have my job. There was a technical conference and I had money to send one person. He didn’t want me to send “a girl” because “they aren’t really committed to tech.” Not something to say to your female boss. The other one was when I was pregnant and he thought it was his place to tell me he’d like my job when I quit - after all, I’d be breastfeeding and wanting to spend time with the baby. I did quit - for a different job. He did not get mine. He was a Microsoft Server consultant in 1999 - a field with a lot of sexism. I had a note put in his file that he wasn’t to be placed with a female client. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/198 "2017-07-10T13:29:14Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > You remind me of a guy who worked for me… He reminds me of someone we interviewed once too. The candidate managed to pull the wool over the eyes of the first interviewer. Then came a tougher technical interview with a guy who knew his shit. This interviewer came out of the meeting and said “never have I seen such arrogance with so little justification.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/199 "2017-07-10T13:29:30Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I went in for an initial 15-minute interview for a job last week. This was with a department supervisor who was a straight-laced Asian woman in her mid-30s. > > After an hour, she felt obliged to bring in the Division Director, a friendly white woman in her early 50s. After speaking with her for an hour, I was offered the job on the spot. > > Now, I offer this because, believe it or not, I am masterful when it comes to interacting with women in professional settings. Because I am articulate, insightful, and honest. And most of all because I understand decorum and how to present myself as effectively as possible without seeming arrogant or pompous. > > I come here to speak the truths that polite society doesn’t afford me and do so fairly liberally when I see something that simply strains credibility. I can’t truly believe that a joke about sharing women in a Gilligan’s Island type scenario renders the balanced adult apoplectic. **On the internet.** > > This isn’t the quarterly executives meeting. If it were, a tactless remark like that would render _me_ apoplectic as it reflects a lack of professionalism unbecoming the circumstance. > > As it stands, The Straight Dope is an internet forum home to some great intellectual discourse and some blindingly inane over-reactions. If I care to call that out from time to time, that is my prerogative. What rant? What/who was “apoplectic”? The OP spent a few minutes saying “hey, I found that joke objectifying, and I didn’t appreciate it, and maybe you shouldn’t make objectifying jokes like that”. How is that an overreaction? Are you saying that any reaction to a joke one finds inappropriate is an overreaction? In short, what the fuck are you talking about? Your posts make no sense in the context of the OP. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/200 "2017-07-10T13:34:10Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Me thinks you were whooshed quite bad here, by several of us. But if you really have to bitch to breath, feel free. Otherwise, try and see how this fits your sensitivity; take a flying fuck at the moon. You said something sexist and insulting, and now you’re pretending it’s high art. Look, you made a mildly offensive comment, and someone took mild offense. Be a grownup and admit it. Good people can make offensive comments; we’re all raised in an unequal culture and hear this shit all our lives so it’s easy to slip in to. Have the maturity to back down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633.md?page=11)