# Really Guys?  AKA Sexism on the Board

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 6, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633 "2017-07-06T18:17:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/21 "2017-07-06T19:19:36Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So, If I tell you that you are as worthless as the pope’s balls, it’s okay right. The men won’t riot over that?

1. Your definition of “riot” seems to be rather wide.
2. I’m pretty sure telling someone in IMHO that they were as worthless as the Pope’s balls would get the same reaction from TPTB, if it were brought to their attention.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/22 "2017-07-06T19:22:50Z")

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**Morgenstern** you are amusing, but I doubt it’s in the way you intended. Did you ask anyone to hold your beer before you started typing?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/23 "2017-07-06T19:23:10Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So, If I tell you that you are as worthless as the pope’s balls, it’s okay right. The men won’t riot over that?
> 
> But if I say you’re as worthless as a nun’s uterus, what the fuck do the snowflakes do?
> 
> They bitch. Snowflakes like to bitch.  
> Gonna see if I give a fuck, but it’s looking like I don’t.

Posting while drunk at noon?

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/24 "2017-07-06T19:23:38Z")

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Wow, somebody didn’t take his testosterone-poisoning antidote today. Or any day, most likely.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/25 "2017-07-06T19:23:56Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So, If I tell you that you are as worthless as the pope’s balls, it’s okay right. The men won’t riot over that?
> 
> But if I say you’re as worthless as a nun’s uterus, what the fuck do the snowflakes do?
> 
> They bitch. Snowflakes like to bitch.  
> Gonna see if I give a fuck, but it’s looking like I don’t.

Okay internet tough guy. Let’s see how tough you really are. Go say some more sexist shit in that other thread. I mean, come on man, show us “special snowflakes” how it’s really done.

Go on, I dare ya’.

No wait! I DOUBLE DOG dare ya’!

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/26 "2017-07-06T19:25:18Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> **Morgenstern** you are amusing, but I doubt it’s in the way you intended. Did you ask anyone to hold your beer before you started typing?

Sunny Daze, you are far too easily amused.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/27 "2017-07-06T19:29:31Z")

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He’s acting like a child, trying to piss me off. All he’s doing is embarrassing himself. I admit to finding that amusing. :o

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/28 "2017-07-06T19:37:57Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So, If I tell you that you are as worthless as the pope’s balls, it’s okay right. The men won’t riot over that?
> 
> But if I say you’re as worthless as a nun’s uterus, what the fuck do the snowflakes do?
> 
> They bitch. Snowflakes like to bitch.  
> Gonna see if I give a fuck, but it’s looking like I don’t.

How about just not being a jerk?

Try it. You might learn to like it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/29 "2017-07-06T19:39:55Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> Wow, somebody didn’t take his testosterone-poisoning antidote today. Or any day, most likely.

There is no such cure or antidote, the effects go all the way down to the bone. About the only possible amelioration comes from the soft guys with the wobbly bits and a consistent program of scolding. Effectiveness varies.

Personally, I have come to the conclusion that the world would be a better place if we of the hairy and stinky gender would just butt out and let them run things. Maybe, just maybe, they wouldn’t do a better job, but they could hardly do worse. And on the plus side, it opens up more time for fishing and beer.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/30 "2017-07-06T19:40:09Z")

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Speaking up as well in support of Sunny Daze. I don’t post an awful lot but I read tons of threads,yet somehow missed that one. Fwiw (admittedly very little), I too found that pretty offensive. We women have to deal with so much of this shit on a daily basis, it’s just ridiculous in this day and age. Men making these ‘jokes’ don’t seem to realize what it’s like to feel like you’re viewed as an object, something there for a man’s enjoyment. Yes, it’s a lot better than it was thirty, forty years ago but it’s still a very real problem.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/31 "2017-07-06T19:56:14Z")

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It would not have occurred to me that female Dopers would have found that sharing joke offensive. But I am perfectly willing to take **Sunny Daze** ’ word for it.

**Morgenstern** , you’ve been a complete dumbass ever since that ridiculous Calexit thread. I don’t remember you being an ass before that - though to be fair, I just don’t remember you. Have you suffered a traumatic brain injury? Been dumped? Something bothering you that you’d like to share with us?

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**Author:** ![bobo\_blesinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@bobo\_blesinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobo_blesinger)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/32 "2017-07-06T19:57:50Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> First up - **Projammer** I want a trophy for starting a non-Trump Pit thread.
> 
> Onwards to the Pitting
> 
> In this recent [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20323103#post20323103) on the gender breakdown of members on the Dope, we find this sterling interchange. A lovely little joke about how there aren’t enough ladies to go around, so the men will have to double up.
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> I stated in the thread that it was offensive, to me at least.
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> I got this dismissive post back from **Kayaker**. I am a “little girl”, who just didn’t get his joke. Maybe I would have if it was just us women here, or something. A classic non-apology apology.
> 
> Pro-tip: the “apology” would have gone further if you’d left off the snarky deleted “little girl” nonsense.
> 
> Here it is. Sexism alive and well on the Board, not that we wondered. Would it kill you guys to think a minute before you hit that “post” button?
> 
> FTR - I like these Posters. I don’t like this content. Cut this shit out.

Goddamn you are a dumb twunt.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/33 "2017-07-06T20:00:52Z")

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> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> Men making these ‘jokes’ don’t seem to realize what it’s like to feel like you’re viewed as an object, something there for a man’s enjoyment.

They realize it just fine. That’s their whole point. They’re going out of their way to reinforce the societal attitude that women are objects whose only worth is the enjoyment men get from them.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/34 "2017-07-06T20:07:48Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> They realize it just fine. That’s their whole point. They’re going out of their way to reinforce the societal attitude that women are objects whose only worth is the enjoyment men get from them.

not necessarily - either way, they don’t care but they don’t\* necessarily\* understand what they are doing.

these threads are handy now & then so you can take note of whose too much of an asshole to read anymore. like bobo, for example. morganstern we already knew about.

> [@](#):
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> Goddamn you are a dumb twunt.

hostile little snowflake

so, Sunny Daze, the answer to your OP is yes, really

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/35 "2017-07-06T20:27:03Z")

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I’m long past the days of being surprised about running into sexism on this board - even from guys who believe they’re totes feminist, you guys.

Another example is Little Pig’s insistence on calling any woman he disagrees with a ‘gutter slut’ or some similar sexist insult. [Most recent example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20323671&postcount=11) (That one he took back…not because he realized the sexist phrasing was obnoxious, but because he could call her a Nazi.)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/36 "2017-07-06T20:29:49Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> I’m long past the days of being surprised about running into sexism on this board - even from guys who believe they’re totes feminist, you guys.
> 
> Another example is Little Pig’s insistence on calling any woman he disagrees with a ‘gutter slut’ or some similar sexist insult. [Most recent example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20323671&postcount=11) (That one he took back…not because he realized the sexist phrasing was obnoxious, but because he could call her a Nazi.)

Should change that handle to [Spanky\_Ham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Drawn_Together_characters#Spanky_Ham) and be done with it.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/37 "2017-07-06T20:31:23Z")

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I regret that I’ll be unable to accommodate your request for a trophy, but I do appreciate the effort and fully support your pitting. There are users that already get it and those that never will. Hopefully you will reach some of those in the middle that had just never really taken the time to consider how others might interpret what they say.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/38 "2017-07-06T20:35:02Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> not necessarily - either way, they don’t care but they don’t\* necessarily\* understand what they are doing.

Yeah, I don’t really believe that. Granted that many of these losers are dumber than Donald’s hair, but they understand that uppity women need to be smacked down. They probably can’t spell misogyny but they know all about how to deploy it.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/39 "2017-07-06T20:47:17Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Yeah, I don’t really believe that. Granted that many of these losers are dumber than Donald’s hair, but they understand that uppity women need to be smacked down. They probably can’t spell misogyny but they know all about how to deploy it.

Unfortunately, it’s quite easy perform bigotry while sincerely believing in equality. Depending on your upbringing and background, it often takes conscious work and reflection not to engage in these behaviors by mindless default. If you’re not trying to do that work, you deserve criticism. But I don’t think it’s really an issue of bad intent, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-guys-aka-sexism-on-the-board/790633/40 "2017-07-06T20:49:03Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It would not have occurred to me that female Dopers would have found that sharing joke offensive. But I am perfectly willing to take **Sunny Daze** ’ word for it.

Yeah, I get that the original comments were intended as a joke. That doesn’t excuse it, though. When (generic) you make a joke and it offends someone, you apologize and move on.

> [@](#):
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> **Morgenstern** , you’ve been a complete dumbass ever since that ridiculous Calexit thread. I don’t remember you being an ass before that - though to be fair, I just don’t remember you. Have you suffered a traumatic brain injury? Been dumped? Something bothering you that you’d like to share with us?

Well, that’s the way it is, sometimes. Have you ever heard that there’s no such thing as bad publicity? I can understand why someone who’s been pleasant, inoffensive, and forgettable would want to be certain, outspoken, and noticed. I really hate the idea that it seems to be a choice between the two, but the older I get, the less I’m prepared to say it’s wrong.

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