# Really hot girls who work at really crappy jobs **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658 "2012-08-06T21:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/21 "2012-08-06T22:15:56Z")
Female beauty is like a male being a really big, strong guy. Yes, there are advantages to it; but it’s a common enough set of advantages that it’s difficult to leverage very far. There’s always another beautiful woman or big strong guy who can take your place. It’s not like being something genuinely rare like, say, a genius; fire a guy like that or drive him to resign and you’ll be hard pressed to find another. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/22 "2012-08-06T22:17:01Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > I was ready to give a serious response to the OP but then I read this. You’re better than me. I couldn’t take the OP seriously when she gave “hooter’s bartender” as an example of a prestigious occupation. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/23 "2012-08-06T22:20:38Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I thought popular culture portrayed tanned sluts as freeloading moochers, not hot women in general. Not that I’m any sort of ethical lodestone. If a sugar daddy showed up and promised to take care of me, I’d walk out right in the middle of thi I confess I don’t pay much attention to pop culture. I always figured the Snookis and Kardadhians were rich and successful because the said “tee hee, I’m cute and have big tits. Will you take care of me?” and someone did. Or paid attention to them long enough for them to become famous. Paris Hilton and Brittany Spears are example A of this phenomenon. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/24 "2012-08-06T22:22:16Z")
Is the OP a woman? Is this a jealousy thing? ---
**Author:** ![Diamonds02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Diamonds02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diamonds02)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/25 "2012-08-06T22:34:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You’re better than me. I couldn’t take the OP seriously when she gave “hooter’s bartender” as an example of a prestigious occupation. Not prestigious but it pays well enough. Around 50k a year. That’s not rich, but that should be enough to support a single woman. If I made that much a year, I would be turning cartwheels with no panties on. ---
**Author:** ![Diamonds02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Diamonds02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diamonds02)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/26 "2012-08-06T22:36:10Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > Is the OP a woman? Is this a jealousy thing? Yes I’m a woman. Jealousy thing??? ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/27 "2012-08-06T22:38:04Z")
If you turned cartwheels with no panties on, you’d be a Hooters bartender and make that much. ---
**Author:** ![YourAdHere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@YourAdHere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourAdHere)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/28 "2012-08-06T22:39:13Z")
Assuming that your premis is true, maybe they’re young and just haven’t worked their way up yet. Maybe they are working their way through college or just don’t have the requisite skill set or connections for a better job / position yet. I don’t think anybody would hire somebody who is unqualified, just because they look good. Now, here are some anecdotes - (Since this isn’t GQ) sorry. The really hot people doing jobs like cashier etc whom I’ve known still do have “benefits”, (possibly imaginary), that other people might not have. Some people might consider them not really to be benefits at all. Mainly the “benefits” were that a large percentage of guys who came in there would always be super nice / friendly to them, always making jokes and chit chat and giving compliments. Now, some of this was genuine because they are naturally very amiable ladies. I’ve worked as a cashier as a young ugly guy before I graduated college and know that certain types of people can be very friendly. A lot of other people can be incredibly rude, condescending and insulting though. For me, the worst were yuppy types who had never had a min wage job and think that they’re above it. Attractive people seemed to get much less of the nastiness and have a rosier picture of humanity. Also there would sometimes be repeat customers who would give the young ladies gifts / tips such as concert tickets, an ipod, a laptop, etc as part of an effort to get to know them better, exchange numbers, and hopefully go out with them. Sometimes these gifts would accompany an invitation to the beach or a concert. Things like this never seemed to happen to male cashiers i knew, but the girls insisted that it had nothing to do with gender. Oftentimes they were a little creeped out or annoyed by “old” guys hitting on them, but said nothing because the guys were nice and would give good tips / gifts. 1 girl I knew, age 25 and very pretty, got picked up by this 35 year old customer with his own business / good money and became his fiance. She moved in with him into a nice house and quit the job when he completely support her. She wants out and says he is really mean to her, but stays in because he supports her. A guy I know, age 27, picked up a pretty girl, age 21, whom he met bc she worked at dunkin donuts. Now she’s pregnant, living at his place, and she quit bc he’s supporting her. They seem very happy. The other attractive people I knew who worked in a min wage jobs eventually graduated and got good jobs they were qualified for based on merit, or through connections just like anybody else. TLDR - it does happen, but maybe not as much or as fast as you might think. The benefits seem to be friendlier interactions with the populace, a few small gifts, and many advances from men. ---
**Author:** ![YourAdHere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@YourAdHere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourAdHere)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/29 "2012-08-06T22:44:11Z")
S\*\*\* I’m sorry if I just fed something I shouldn’t have, and sorry about the wall of text. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/30 "2012-08-06T22:52:21Z")
I… kind of agree with the OP’s basic premise. I definitely experience a little bit of cognitive dissonance when I see a _really_ attractive woman in a _really_ crappy job. I don’t think that makes me a bad person. Society tells us that attractive=successful, whether or not that’s functionally true. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/31 "2012-08-06T22:55:26Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > Not prestigious but it pays well enough. Around 50k a year. That’s not rich, but that should be enough to support a single woman. If I made that much a year, I would be turning cartwheels with no panties on. I’ll pay you to not do that. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/32 "2012-08-06T22:57:07Z")
I know a hot girl (well, she’s a hot young woman now) who got her crappy drive-thru job after failing at (1) being a lifeguard/swim instructor and (2) being a waitress at a chain restaurant. She is a klutz, and let’s not sugarcoat it, she almost let a couple of kids her in class DROWN, on two separate occasions. She screwed up orders and dropped whole trays of glassware. If she were a model–and she could be, she’s tall, svelte, and cute–she would fall off the runway or twist her ankle. She is also a student in an MBA program. Maybe she can learn how to be not so much of a fuck-up. Or maybe she could teach ballet. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/33 "2012-08-06T22:57:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I… kind of agree with the OP’s basic premise. I definitely experience a little bit of cognitive dissonance when I see a _really_ attractive woman in a _really_ crappy job. > > I don’t think that makes me a bad person. Society tells us that attractive=successful, whether or not that’s functionally true. I’m also with the OP on this one. When I see a hot girl working a crummy or menial job I think to myself, “Surely she can do better.” This is because, all else being equal, a good looking woman has a huge advantage in the workplace compared to a homely or ugly woman. All she needs to do is master some social skills and she’s in. It may not be right or fair. But that’s the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/34 "2012-08-06T23:05:24Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’ll pay you to not do that. I lol’d! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/35 "2012-08-06T23:13:15Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > I was ready to give a serious response to the OP but then I read this. > > Never mind. Well, I was about to give a serious response, but then I read this: > [@Diamonds02](#): > > . ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/36 "2012-08-06T23:16:33Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > I know a hot girl (well, she’s a hot young woman now) who got her crappy drive-thru job after failing at (1) being a lifeguard/swim instructor and (2) being a waitress at a chain restaurant. She is a klutz, and let’s not sugarcoat it, she almost let a couple of kids her in class DROWN, on two separate occasions. She screwed up orders and dropped whole trays of glassware. > > If she were a model–and she could be, she’s tall, svelte, and cute–she would fall off the runway or twist her ankle. > > She is also a student in an MBA program. Maybe she can learn how to be not so much of a fuck-up. > > Or maybe she could teach ballet. There’s always opportunities in the field of stripping. A good-looking woman can make a lot of money just turning cartwheels with no panties on. And if she has poor balance, the cartwheels are optional. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/37 "2012-08-06T23:17:13Z")
If she has poor balance, at least there’s a nearby pole to hang onto. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/38 "2012-08-06T23:32:00Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > I confess I don’t pay much attention to pop culture. I always figured the Snookis and Kardadhians were rich and successful because the said “tee hee, I’m cute and have big tits. Will you take care of me?” and someone did. Or paid attention to them long enough for them to become famous. Paris Hilton and Brittany Spears are example A of this phenomenon. The Kardashians had the good sense to be born to the wife of a prominant attorney whose ultimately married Olympian Bruce Jenner. Paris Hilton was smart enough to be born to the Hilton family. Brittany Spears actually does something for a living (regardless of what you think of her talent doing it). Snooki and the other Jersey Shore idiots, I have no idea. I did a Jersey Shore party house when I was in my early 20s. I had no idea one could make a career out of getting drunk every weekend and hitting on bar skanks while dancing like an idiot to house music. I really don’t understand what the OP is talking about. There are plenty of hot girls working crappy jobs, by which I assume you mean low-level service jobs - waitresses, bartenders, cashiers, sandwich shops, Starbucks baristas, whathaveyou. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/39 "2012-08-06T23:49:57Z")
In this economy, it wouldn’t surprise me if the good jobs outnumbered the hot girls. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658/40 "2012-08-06T23:55:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In this economy, it wouldn’t surprise me if the good jobs outnumbered the hot girls. Or, the other way around. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-hot-girls-who-work-at-really-crappy-jobs/630658.md?page=3)