# Really, Twickster? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 14, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183 "2013-08-14T02:54:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/21 "2013-08-14T03:55:29Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Oh bullshit. Everybody knows why \*\*Dmark’\*\*s post wasn’t modded. Liberals don’t get censored for nitpicky nonsense, especially not by Twickster. A report would have either been ignored, or given her an excuse to send me a private snark-o-gram. Oh,come on. Pull up your big boy pants and report it. Then you can continue your rant when you don’t get satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/22 "2013-08-14T03:56:54Z")
I’ve reported Dmark’s post with this as the reason: “The question is about Henry’s opinion, not DMark’s.” ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/23 "2013-08-14T04:00:07Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Oh,come on. Pull up your big boy pants and report it. Then you can continue your rant when you don’t get satisfaction. I just reported your post. Mods don’t get to taunt/insult posters. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/24 "2013-08-14T04:03:36Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Oh bullshit. Everybody knows why \*\*Dmark’\*\*s post wasn’t modded. Liberals don’t get censored for nitpicky nonsense, especially not by Twickster. A report would have either been ignored, or given her an excuse to send me a private snark-o-gram. Sheesh. Give it up, **Oakminster**. You trot this out every time you have an issue with modding. It’s not true, and it’s really past tiresome at this point. If you really believe this to be true, what’s the point of even posting yet another complaint? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/25 "2013-08-14T04:06:47Z")
I agree with Oakminster that they were two threads that were offering personal opinions about Jane Fonda. If one of them was moderated, they both should have been. It may have been an issue of when they were posted. (The second post appears to have been posted while the moderating post was written.) But once the moderating note was posted, it should have been edited to also address that second post or a second moderating note should have been posted. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/26 "2013-08-14T04:08:46Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Oh bullshit. Everybody knows why \*\*Dmark’\*\*s post wasn’t modded. Everybody but you, that is–everybody who knows how to read a time stamp. > [@](#): > > Liberals don’t get censored for nitpicky nonsense, especially not by Twickster. A report would have either been ignored, or given her an excuse to send me a private snark-o-gram. That’s not why. You’re acting ridiculous and should stop. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/27 "2013-08-14T04:14:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree with Oakminster that they were two threads that were offering personal opinions about Jane Fonda. If one of them was moderated, they both should have been. > > It may have been an issue of when they were posted. (The second post appears to have been posted while the moderating post was written.) But once the moderating note was posted, it should have been edited to also address that second post or a second moderating note should have been posted. I’m sure you meant “two posts” not “two threads.” You may be correct about the moderation. I gave my rational about the time stamps. Tune in in the morning for further updates on this crisis. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/28 "2013-08-14T04:26:42Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Tune in in the morning for further updates on this crisis. I’m not going to get ANY sleep at all tonight!!! Thanks, Straight Dope!!! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/29 "2013-08-14T04:31:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Sheesh. Give it up, **Oakminster**. You trot this out every time you have an issue with modding. It’s not true, and it’s really past tiresome at this point. > > If you really believe this to be true, what’s the point of even posting yet another complaint? I don’t give a damn if you like it or not. When I have an issue, I will raise it in this very forum, as the rules require. And past complaints have had some positive effect on more reasonable mods. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/30 "2013-08-14T05:00:48Z")
**DMark** did address **Oakminster** ’s point, which he probably shouldn’t have, but at least he then tried to steer it back to the original topic. I’ve found that posts like that tend to go over better than one liners. And, if you assume the propriety of moderating a hijack before it happens, **twickster** ’s post makes perfect sense. If you allow personal opinions, this is clearly a highly contentious topic that very quickly would get political, thus being more fit for Great Debates than for Cafe Society. This would not be true in general, hence why such moderation is usually not performed. My personal opinion on Tom Cruise, for example, is hardly likely to start a hijack. But “Hanoi Jane,” as he called her, clearly is a political figure. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/31 "2013-08-14T05:06:11Z")
Removed this post, decided not to go there. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/32 "2013-08-14T05:19:06Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I don’t give a damn if you like it or not. When I have an issue, I will raise it in this very forum, as the rules require. And past complaints have had some positive effect on more reasonable mods. They most certainly do not. Do you seriously not know that you are supposed to contact the moderator in question first before posting a rant about their decision in ATMB? Do you also not know that they would prefer you not post any rants in ATMB and are less likely to grant your request if you do? The only thing such rants accomplish is catharsis. For you because you get it out, and for them because they can make snarky comments. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/33 "2013-08-14T05:27:17Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > I’m sure you meant “two posts” not “two threads.” You’re correct. > [@BigT](#): > > **DMark** did address **Oakminster** ’s point, which he probably shouldn’t have, but at least he then tried to steer it back to the original topic. I’ve found that posts like that tend to go over better than one liners. > > And, if you assume the propriety of moderating a hijack before it happens, **twickster** ’s post makes perfect sense. If you allow personal opinions, this is clearly a highly contentious topic that very quickly would get political, thus being more fit for Great Debates than for Cafe Society. > > This would not be true in general, hence why such moderation is usually not performed. My personal opinion on Tom Cruise, for example, is hardly likely to start a hijack. But “Hanoi Jane,” as he called her, clearly is a political figure. Regardless of the rationale, what we ended up with was this situation: > [@](#): > > Poster 1: “Here’s my personal opinion on the topic: I hate it.” > > Poster 2: “Here’s my personal opinion on the topic: I love it.” > > Moderator: “Poster 1, you shouldn’t be posting your personal opinions in this thread.” Now regardless of whether you feel personal opinions were right or wrong, you have to concede this moderation was unbalanced. Either both posts should have been allowed or neither. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/34 "2013-08-14T06:45:24Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Oh bullshit. Everybody knows why \*\*Dmark’\*\*s post wasn’t modded. Liberals don’t get censored for nitpicky nonsense, especially not by Twickster. A report would have either been ignored, or given her an excuse to send me a private snark-o-gram. Oh here we go again. :rolleyes: How many times is this now? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/35 "2013-08-14T07:17:15Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I just reported your post. Mods don’t get to taunt/insult posters. If I were you I’d bookmark this as an example of your qualifications on your very next application to be a mod here. Excellent work, rookie. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/36 "2013-08-14T10:34:38Z")
Oakminster, I agree with your opinion about Jane Fonda. AI can barely stand to see a movie with her in it, my dislike is so strong. But you were wrong in the other thread. It **WAS** about Henry’s feeling towards his daughter’s activities, not about what they **SHOULD** be. Give it up and admit you were out of line. You aren’t going to get things changed by this thread, not if those who agree with your feeling about Jane are agreeing with the mod. You are coming off as a spoiled child. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/37 "2013-08-14T11:16:58Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > They most certainly do not. Do you seriously not know that you are supposed to contact the moderator in question first before posting a rant about their decision in ATMB? Do you also not know that they would prefer you not post any rants in ATMB and are less likely to grant your request if you do? I do not believe that’s true. They don’t want you to debate a mod action in the thread in question but rather PM them or start a thread here in ATMB. Whatever issues there with his point of view, I don’t think Oakminster’s problem here is a breech of etiquette. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/38 "2013-08-14T12:16:34Z")
You’re right, **Oakie, DMark** deserved a mod note for the first paragraph of his response, though the second paragraph was on topic. If I had noticed his post last night, I would have written the note then, but he posted while I was composing my note to you. I then logged off for the night without reviewing the thread in its entirety, so I didn’t see his post at the time. I have written him a mod note this morning. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/39 "2013-08-14T12:26:54Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > You’re right, **Oakie, DMark** deserved a mod note for the first paragraph of his response, though the second paragraph was on topic. > > If I had noticed his post last night, I would have written the note then, but he posted while I was composing my note to you. I then logged off for the night without reviewing the thread in its entirety, so I didn’t see his post at the time. > > I have written him a mod note this morning. Thanks **twickster**. You were right in giving **Oakminster** a mod note. You were right in giving one to **DMark**. I think this is a fine example of board moderation, and one of the reason this board is great. I would also agree with **samclem** ’s opinion of **Oak** and his big boy pants. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183/40 "2013-08-14T12:56:22Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > Thanks **twickster**. > > You were right in giving **Oakminster** a mod note. You were right in giving one to **DMark**. I think this is a fine example of board moderation, and one of the reason this board is great. > > I would also agree with **samclem** ’s opinion of **Oak** and his big boy pants. Careful. If you get any more effusive, you’re going to be **brownjacketcoder**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/really-twickster/666183.md?page=3)