# reasoning for keyless pushbutton start on cars **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 10, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846 "2019-07-10T17:08:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846/121 "2019-07-29T23:51:29Z")
My Subaru Outback has keyless entry/ignition and I like it just fine. As others have said, the fob goes in your pocket and stays there. No muss, no fuss, nothing to forget. My Kawasaki motorcycle, which I otherwise love, has a bastard system with both a fob and a semi-captive key. It is the worst of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846/122 "2019-07-30T00:03:32Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > So you carry a key (or a fob) when exercising? Why? Does your car not have a keyless entry keyboard? > [@Spiderman](#): > > Who does that besides Ford? Well, it’s a Lincoln but I guess it’s the same thing. Don’t other car co’s do this? Gee. It sure is handy. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846/123 "2019-07-30T15:14:05Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > I’ve stated before, I somewhat regularly & intentionally lock my key in my car. When I go running, I take the cheapie, chipless key that is smaller, lighter, & waterproof (no electronics) that will only unlock the door & work the accessories (windows & radio) It’s easy to tie it into my laces, or put in that _tiny_ key pocket inside my shorts, where a fob won’t even fit. Both of my smart keys have a physical key that fits into the fob that can be used to lock the car. This system allows me to tie the physical key to my laces or shorts drawstring and lock the electronic part of the key in the car when I run. Here is a picture of [it](https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Keyless-Infiniti-KR55WK48903-KR55WK49622/dp/B0757X8R4N/ref=asc_df_B0757X8R4N/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241995046941&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11963395895939917021&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019203&hvtargid=pla-474736539004&psc=1). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846/124 "2019-07-30T15:36:35Z")
Just picked out a 2018 Rogue SV last night(picking it up tomorrow) with the keyless pushbutton system. They are giving us two keys, and the maintenance program that comes with the car provides one replacement key each year for four years. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846/125 "2019-08-03T18:48:28Z")
We’ve rented a number of cars in the past year, which came equipped with the keyless fob. I never noticed whether they had a built-in backup key (or where the key would go, if it exists). I’ll have to pay attention the next time around. I admit, I do rather like them. Leaving the keys behind is a non-issue, as I always bring a carabiner and attach the key to a belt loop (or if I’m carrying a purse, I attach it to something in the purse). The price to replace them is insane though. For a lot of cars, there is no third-party source for a replacement key so I’d have to pony up hundreds of dollars - our 2006 CRV has a regular key with a built-in fob for remote unlocking, and we can’t make a spare; I think it would have been 500 to get a spare from the dealer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasoning-for-keyless-pushbutton-start-on-cars/836846.md?page=6)