# Reasons guys like women to be fully shaved, other than pedophillia **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 15, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839 "2014-01-15T00:58:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/21 "2014-01-15T02:58:12Z")
> [@mythoughts](#): > > Try this one: > [Psychologists confirm: Women REALLY don't like beards | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110272/Psychologists-confirm-Women-REALLY-dont-like-beards.html) That’s another article about the exact same study :smack: You know, the one where they only polled 200 women from a total of 2 countries - that one. > [@mythoughts](#): > > Even without the study it could be assumed to be true and even obvious. No, it really can’t. Plus you said: > [@mythoughts](#): > > The vast majority of women prefer men to shave their face. SO are you changing your mind on this? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/22 "2014-01-15T03:01:20Z")
Women shave their legs, armpits, and freak out if they have hair on their toes or start growing a mustache, how can they possibly not understand why shaved is better? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/23 "2014-01-15T03:08:37Z")
It’s not pedophilia. It’s chaetophobia. Americans have been taught that body hair is disgusting. Thus, women shave their legs and armpits, a man with a hairy chest or back is mocked, and men think shaving their heads is preferable to using other ways to hide baldness. A woman shaving public hair is no different than manscaping. A man’s beard is now acceptable, but that and the hair on the head of men and women are the only things that are currently stylish. And it is a matter of style. For some reason (partly due to advertising and porn) people have decided that the style is to be as smooth as possible. For my own preferences, I don’t give a rat’s ass how a woman shaves her body (or if she does it at all). But I judge women primarily on their personality, not their physical attributes. ---
**Author:** ![mythoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@mythoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mythoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/24 "2014-01-15T03:12:10Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > That’s another article about the exact same study :smack: > You know, the one where they only polled 200 women from a total of 2 countries - that one. > > No, it really can’t. > > Plus you said: > > SO are you changing your mind on this? I have no idea what I said that would make you say that. And still the point is that plenty of women like shaved men, it does not matter for the point of this thread unless it was a significant minority (say under 20%). ---
**Author:** ![Inna\_Minnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Inna\_Minnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inna_Minnit)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/25 "2014-01-15T03:19:34Z")
Men who like shaved pussy generally get their ideas about sex from porn, not real live women. See? I can make grand sweeping generalities too. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/26 "2014-01-15T03:20:25Z")
> [@mythoughts](#): > > I have no idea what I said that would make you say that. Well, originally you said: > [@mythoughts](#): > > The vast majority of women prefer men to shave their face. And when you were called on it you changed your tune to: > [@mythoughts](#): > > But for the point to be made, it doesn’t need to be a majority (which I assert it is) but merely non unusual for a woman to like or prefer a guy with a clean shaven face. So I asked if you’re giving up your original claim or if you’re going to provide an accurate citation that supports your original position, and if it doesn’t matter for the point of this thread why did you make the statement in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/27 "2014-01-15T03:24:49Z")
First of all, just how many women did you ask IRL? You do realize that not everyone grew up in the 90s or later. Hair (head, facial, body and pubes) fashion changes and a good share of us are from another generation (yes, Junior, people your parents’ age and older still have sex) and prefer things a bit more natural. Next, not all women style their pubes to suit a man. Shoot, not all women even want to fuck one.:eek:As they say, different strokes and all.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/28 "2014-01-15T03:29:07Z")
Women under the age 40 - 45 need to shave down there. Not to do so is rude in my opinion. It doesn’t have to be completely bald, but it does need to be trimmed and short. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/29 "2014-01-15T03:32:39Z")
Just curious, why is 40-45 the cutoff in your view? ---
**Author:** ![mythoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@mythoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mythoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/30 "2014-01-15T03:34:08Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Well, originally you said: > > And when you were called on it you changed your tune to: > > So I asked if you’re giving up your original claim or if you’re going to provide an accurate citation that supports your original position, and if it doesn’t matter for the point of this thread why did you make the statement in the first place? Do you know what every woman in the world thinks? Neither do I, so I can accept that we can’t know, merely speculate. And since our speculations differ then rather than get lost in side issues, I could simply point out that the main point I am arguing is that it would be absurd to claim that women who do prefer men who are well shaved would not normally be accused of having pedo tendencies. This does not mean that my opinion about what women prefer has changed materially, as that isn’t the point of this thread. Feel free to start a thread about women preferring guys sporting facial hair. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/31 "2014-01-15T03:36:32Z")
i use store bought dental floss so a bush has no benefit. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/32 "2014-01-15T03:40:24Z")
> [@mythoughts](#): > > Do you know what every woman in the world thinks? > > Neither do I, so I can accept that we can’t know, merely speculate. Then you should really stop making statements of fact like: > [@mythoughts](#): > > The vast majority of women prefer men to shave their face. and then trying to back those statements up with bogus studies like you did here > [@mythoughts](#): > > There is this amazing thing called google… > > [Do Women Like Facial Hair? - AskMen](http://au.askmen.com/dating/news/2_women-prefer-clean-shaven-men.html) > [Women prefer clean-shaven men - study - NZ Herald](http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10790488) > [As a study reveals women prefer their men clean shaven, lifelong beard-hater KATHRYN KNIGHT asks which stars are... Sexier by a whisker? | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2110758/As-study-reveals-women-prefer-men-clean-shaven-lifelong-beard-hater-KATHRYN-KNIGHT-asks-stars--Sexier-whisker.html) > [Male Grooming Experience Center about beard grooming](http://www.philips.com/e/male-grooming/blog/women-want-clean-shaven-guy-no-beard.html) ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/33 "2014-01-15T03:49:37Z")
Welcome to the SDMB, **mythoughts**. Since you’re sharing your opinion, I’ve moved this thread to our IMHO forum (from MPSIMS). ---
**Author:** ![mythoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@mythoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mythoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/34 "2014-01-15T03:53:20Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Then you should really stop making statements of fact like: > > and then trying to back those statements up with bogus studies like you did here I said something that I believed was true, backed up by a study (with no opposing poll or study that I am aware of) and seems to be true based on my personal experience, watching TV and movies (wives and girlfriends who have not been fond of the’r guys facial hair) etc… Now once you said you didn’t agree, I did not bother to argue that you must be wrong, I pointed out that it simply isn’t really relevant. You seem to have a facial hair axe to grind. BTW most guys do most things to attract women, at least that is a well known meme. And most guys do not have facial hair. Now bring on the complaints and asking me to cite my sources when I say that guys try to impress women and that most men don’t have significant facial hair. Some of you are really hard work. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/35 "2014-01-15T03:59:25Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Women under the age 40 - 45 need to shave down there. Not to do so is rude in my opinion. It doesn’t have to be completely bald, but it does need to be trimmed and short. Rude? What are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/36 "2014-01-15T04:01:29Z")
> [@mythoughts](#): > > I said something that I believed was true, backed up by a study (with no opposing poll or study that I am aware of) and seems to be true based on my personal experience, watching TV and movies (wives and girlfriends who have not been fond of the’r guys facial hair) etc… And if you has stated it as your opinion then we would have been fine, but when **EmilyG** asked you to back up what you presented as fact: > [@EmilyG](#): > > Cite? > No, seriously, how do you know the “vast majority” of women prefer that? > > Me, I’m a woman, and I like clean-shaven, and I like stubble, and I like beards, and I like moustaches with beards. I don’t really like moustaches by themselves though. But those are just my preferences. You decided to continue to present it as fact and frankly acted pretty snarky: > [@mythoughts](#): > > There is this amazing thing called google… > > [Do Women Like Facial Hair? - AskMen](http://au.askmen.com/dating/news/2_women-prefer-clean-shaven-men.html) > [http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c\_id=1&objectid=10790488](http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10790488) > [As a study reveals women prefer their men clean shaven, lifelong beard-hater KATHRYN KNIGHT asks which stars are... Sexier by a whisker? | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2110758/As-study-reveals-women-prefer-men-clean-shaven-lifelong-beard-hater-KATHRYN-KNIGHT-asks-stars--Sexier-whisker.html) > [Male Grooming Experience Center about beard grooming](http://www.philips.com/e/male-grooming/blog/women-want-clean-shaven-guy-no-beard.html) Now you want to wave it off and say it wasn’t relevant so we should ignore your misrepresentation. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/37 "2014-01-15T04:05:10Z")
Not a fan of shaved myself. I like to beat around the bush, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/38 "2014-01-15T04:09:35Z")
I don’t know dude, in Bangkok I think close inspection would be the order of the day. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/39 "2014-01-15T04:10:32Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Just curious, why is 40-45 the cutoff in your view? Anecdotal I admit, but that’s my age range. I grew up right at the cusp of shaving it down there. Or at least the cusp was right around the age I became interested in sex. (80’s) Anybody older than me, the social norm was NOT shaving. > [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Rude? What are you talking about? Kind of like if I invited you to stay at my house this weekend yet, I make no effort to clean my messy house. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839/40 "2014-01-15T04:18:20Z")
> [@mythoughts](#): > > Coarse dark pubic hair is both kinda disgusting and definitely masculine, > … > > Now personally I do quite like the look of light blonde and some shades or red/ginger pubes provided the vulva is smooth, but dark ones are not nice to look at,… > [@mythoughts](#): > > Appearance, is anyone going to argue that coarse wiry black hairs don’t look masculin or do look feminine? So, you’re saying that: - Black women have ugly, disgusting, and masculine pubic hair. - Asian women have ugly, disgusting, and masculine pubic hair. - Indian women have ugly, disgusting, and masculine pubic hair. - Indigenous/Native American women have ugly, disgusting, and masculine pubic hair. Why am I even bothering with this? You’re saying that every woman on earth except for a very narrow subset of those with Northern European ancestry has ugly, disgusting, and masculine pubic hair. I do love the smell of racism in the morning! (Lest you think I’m offended because you think I have ugly, disgusting, and masculine pubic hair–according to your criteria, I don’t. I’m one of that narrow subset. You’d fully approve, both in terms of color and grooming. Now I’m going to take my Aryan-looking pubes off to bed.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reasons-guys-like-women-to-be-fully-shaved-other-than-pedophillia/678839.md?page=3)