# Recall of Gov. Gavin Newsom of California

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 19, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239 "2021-03-19T13:27:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/61 "2021-04-23T16:30:19Z")

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Am I the only person gobsmacked that a transgendered Kardashian is a Republican?

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/62 "2021-04-23T16:52:53Z")

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According to the article linked above: “socially liberal but fiscally conservative candidate”… yes they do exist.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/63 "2021-04-23T16:55:47Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> Am I the only person gobsmacked that a transgendered Kardashian is a Republican?

Well…technically not a Kardashian. And there are some Republican’s that can understand a “lesbian trapped in a man’s body”.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/64 "2021-04-23T18:06:26Z")

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Don’t know of any transgendered republicans in office now. I believe a few have run and lost. TV and Movie people have a good track record of winning races.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/65 "2021-04-23T18:14:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> On the off-chance that she actually gets elected, what are Jenner’s politics?

[From LA Times “Caitlyn Jenner announces run for California governor in recall election”](https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-23/caitlyn-jenner-governor-recall):

> It’s a familiar quandary for Jenner, who has said she has received more flak for being a Republican than for announcing that she identified as a trans woman in 2015. She describes herself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and publicly supported Trump in the 2016 election. (A recent Politico story found that she did not vote in that election, nor in about two-thirds of others she was eligible to cast a ballot in since 2000.)
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> In 2018, after the president pushed anti-trans policies, Jenner said she made a mistake in backing him.
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> [As Jenner builds a campaign staff](https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-06/caitlyn-jenner-california-governor-newsom-recall-arnold-schwarzenegger), she is reportedly surrounded by some Trump loyalists, including a fundraiser associated with the rally that preceded the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Jenner was spotted dining Thursday night at Tuscany il Ristorante in Westlake Village with former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale, along with former state GOP chairman Frank Visco, actor John O’Hurley, businessman Zack Schuler and others.

She’s tainted by Trump, and thus unelectable, as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/66 "2021-04-23T18:40:06Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> TV and Movie people have a good track record of winning races.

**Especially** in California. (Reagan, Schwarzenegger…)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/67 "2021-04-23T18:40:16Z")

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If I were a Californian, I would agree, **Pleonast**.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/68 "2021-04-23T18:49:34Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> She’s tainted by Trump, and thus unelectable, as far as I’m concerned.

She’s just unelectable, period. Democrats won’t vote for her because she’s a Republican. Republicans won’t vote for her because she’s trans. And she’s largely loathed by the LGBT community.

I think there’s a good chance that this is a scam - not by Jenner, but _on_ Jenner. Some reptile has recognized her as a person with a lot of money, not too many brains, and an outsized sense of her own cultural importance, and has decided to leverage those into a do-nothing job as a campaign manager for a campaign that he knows is dead on arrival.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/69 "2021-04-23T18:54:06Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think there’s a good chance that this is a scam - not by Jenner, but _on_ Jenner. Some reptile has recognized her as a person with a lot of money, not too many brains, and an outsized sense of her own cultural importance, and has decided to leverage those into a do-nothing job as a campaign manager for a campaign that he knows is dead on arrival.

You may be on to something.

> Jenner was spotted dining Thursday night at Tuscany il Ristorante in Westlake Village with former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale,

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/70 "2021-04-23T19:01:38Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> And she’s largely loathed by the LGBT community.

I largely ignore the Kardashian solar system; why is she loathed?

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/71 "2021-04-23T19:45:36Z")

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I think she is not liked because she backed Trump in 2016 even though she later came out against him. Also very few LGBT people are Republican.

For celebs Obama was helped by an early endorsement from Oprah.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/72 "2021-04-23T20:31:45Z")

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What does that last sentence have to do with this thread?

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/73 "2021-04-23T21:01:40Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Jenner was spotted dining Thursday night at Tuscany il Ristorante in Westlake Village with former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale, along with former state GOP chairman Frank Visco, actor John O’Hurley, businessman Zack Schuler and others.

Ah, the grift that keeps on grifting.

Is it just me, or does it seem like there are a number of candidates (and elected officials) who are not primarily driven by a passion for public service?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/74 "2021-04-23T21:19:45Z")

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The campaign website has no policy positions but a link to order merchandise. Judge for yourself if it’s a grift or not.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/75 "2021-04-23T23:00:32Z")

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Mostly because she was pro-Trump in 2016.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/76 "2021-04-23T23:05:04Z")

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2016 should be proof that nothing is impossible in politics.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/77 "2021-04-23T23:13:35Z")

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Fair.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/78 "2021-04-23T23:59:45Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The campaign website has no policy positions but a link to order merchandise. Judge for yourself if it’s a grift or not.

I think we knew which it was the moment Brad Parscale’s name came up.

Jenner will end up doing harm to the cause of trans rights, Newsom will continue in office, and Brad Parscale will manage to make big bucks.

Same as it ever was.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/79 "2021-04-24T03:35:14Z")

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Something of a bumpy start for her candidacy: [Caitlyn Jenner's announcement she will run for California governor met with criticism: 'Hell no' [Video]](https://www.aol.com/entertainment/caitlyn-jenners-announcement-she-run-223514245.html)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/80 "2021-04-25T02:40:25Z")

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Jenner thinks district attorneys in CA are appointed by the Governor, I don’t live in California and I know that.

[https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1386108198654935045?s=21](https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1386108198654935045?s=21)

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