# Recall of Gov. Gavin Newsom of California

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 19, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239 "2021-03-19T13:27:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/101 "2021-04-27T23:19:11Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> A recall should be for serious violations.

The principle I use for voting “yes” on a California proposition is - “Is something on fire, and will my yes vote help to put it out?” Consequently, I almost never vote “yes” on any proposition. I am opposed to the initiate process in general.

I would use the same principle on voting in favor or a gubernatorial recall.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/102 "2021-04-27T23:25:53Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> 46% is not a majority, at all.

Perhaps you would find “overwhelming dominance” more accurate?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/103 "2021-04-27T23:31:15Z")

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Sorry, no. Words have meanings. 46% is not a majority of ANYTHING.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/104 "2021-04-27T23:34:52Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Sorry, no. Words have meanings. 46% is not a majority of ANYTHING

I give up. Keep on being you, and I’ll be me somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/105 "2021-04-27T23:37:11Z")

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For those picking fly sh\*t out of pepper, the word is “plurality”.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/106 "2021-04-27T23:37:20Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> > [@Tamerlane](#):
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> > You could make the argument that’s not a “gargantuan” majority, but I’d argue it is at least a pretty fucking big one
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> 46% is not a majority, at all. -

Glad you’re keeping your eye on the truly important issues.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/107 "2021-04-27T23:49:58Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Sorry, no. Words have meanings. 46% is not a majority of ANYTHING.

Democrats control all eight executive offices in California. They hold 31 out of 40 seats in the state Senate and 59 out of 79 seats in the state Assembly. Both Senators are Democrats, as are 42 out of 53 Representatives. Joe Biden received 63% of the vote in the state.

That’s a gargantuan Democratic majority by any standard.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/108 "2021-04-28T00:00:41Z")

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And Republicans hold a majority of governorships and state houses in the U.S. Is that "gargantuan?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/109 "2021-04-28T00:07:29Z")

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There are 27 Republican governors, and 23 Democratic. I would not call a difference of four out of fifty “gargantuan.” Republicans have 29 state house versus 19 for Democrats. I wouldn’t call that “gargantuan” either, but I wouldn’t quibble if someone else did - it’s definitely large.

Anyway, I thought it was the word “majority” you were objecting to?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/110 "2021-04-28T03:34:16Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> This whole damn thing is the feeble California Republican party beating its little fists against the chest of the gargantuan Democratic majority. It’s just a way to stay in the news and assure its voters that they are not circling the drain, the way it looks (and is).
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> Unless you live in California you can’t imagine how stupid and broken the proposition/petition system is, the wasted expense, the damage.

And helped out by some lefties who absolutely hate him.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/111 "2021-05-02T18:24:17Z")

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His supporters aren’t just putting their feet up: [California Democrats sharpen messaging against Newsom recall](https://www.aol.com/news/california-democrats-hear-newsom-recall-063905929-132546405.html)

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/112 "2021-05-03T07:11:07Z")

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you know i think whoever starts the recall should be on the hook for paying for a needless election … just like the guy who started the gray davis one so he could run himself for finicial gain and then couldn’t legally run

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/113 "2021-05-04T02:16:58Z")

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Aaaand, here we go (I wish I were making this up)…

> **[John Cox introduces a running mate – 1,000-pound live bear – on recall...](https://sjvsun.com/news/politics/carecall/john-cox-introduces-a-running-mate-1000-pound-live-bear-on-recall-campaign-trail/)**
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> The 2018 GOP gubernatorial nominee is bringing some shock-and-awe to his statewide tour in the form of a 1,000-pound running mate.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/114 "2021-05-04T14:19:01Z")

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What an asinine, er, ursine idea.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/115 "2021-05-05T00:04:30Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> The 2018 GOP gubernatorial nominee is bringing some shock-and-awe to his statewide tour in the form of a 1,000-pound running mate.

I thought at first this was Chris Christie and thought that’s some real clout, but I dunno, maybe having a bear will get the animal rights people on board.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/116 "2021-05-05T00:07:55Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Aaaand, here we go (I wish I were making this up)…
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> [John Cox introduces a running mate – 1,000-pound live bear – on recall campaign trail](https://sjvsun.com/california/john-cox-introduces-a-running-mate-1000-pound-live-bear-on-recall-campaign-trail/) -

That may be the first time a candidate is eaten by his running mate.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/117 "2021-05-05T00:28:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That may be the first time a candidate is eaten by his running mate

Oh yeah, what about Taft’s running mate, James Sherman?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/118 "2021-05-05T14:30:48Z")

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I thought we agreed to _never_ speak of that again.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/119 "2021-05-05T14:34:04Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Oh yeah, what about Taft’s running mate, James Sherman?

It’s okay when a Republican does it.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/120 "2021-05-05T17:06:11Z")

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I’m on board with the bear, but they need to change the photo and the slogan. The photo needs to show the candidate on his knees in front of Trump with the bear watching over Trump’s shoulder, and the slogan should be _ **BJ and the Bear!** _

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