# Recall of Gov. Gavin Newsom of California

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 19, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239 "2021-03-19T13:27:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/121 "2021-05-05T19:20:09Z")

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John Cox has three things to his credit;

Nuttier than trump

Carpetbagger

And the reason why we have Newsom as gov, since the GOP ran this total loser vs Newsom. The repubs out here hate Newsom, and they hate that I point out that Newsom is 100% their fault for running such a total crackpot and loser vs him.

Now, I do not like Newsom, but he handled the covid crisis quite well, imho.

Whatever Newsoms faults, he has done the job a hundred times better than Cox would have done.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/122 "2021-05-06T20:57:23Z")

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The thought of Caitlyn Jenner and John Cox furiously debating on the same stage and getting into a major slapfight that spreads to their followers in the audience gives me a Major Happy.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/123 "2021-05-06T21:06:49Z")

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I wonder if the creators of South Park are working on that right now. (They’ve been skewering Jenner for a while).

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/124 "2021-05-11T18:36:25Z")

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Newsom announced today that California has a $75 billion budget surplus, and the lowest Covid infection rates in the country.

I’m not sure what the argument is for the recall, now…bad optics?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/125 "2021-05-11T18:54:01Z")

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The nutballs are still pissed about the rise in automotive registration rates from a couple of years ago. That and he’s a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/126 "2021-05-13T14:36:47Z")

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And along those lines: [As California posts America's best COVID numbers, Newsom's approval rises — and Caitlyn Jenner's recall hopes sink [Video]](https://www.aol.com/california-posts-americas-best-covid-090021946.html)

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/127 "2021-05-13T19:50:10Z")

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I don’t know how I’ve avoided those Cox commercials until the last day or so, but those describing them didn’t do justice to how completely _stupid_ they are. Cox must be spending a mint on these unbelievably dumb ads.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/128 "2021-05-13T19:58:55Z")

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Not to mention, Cox is why we have Newsom. Cox is a carpetbagging moron, worse than trump.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/129 "2021-05-13T20:09:03Z")

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Yeah, Cox is such a nonentity I didn’t even remember that he was Newsom’s opponent.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/130 "2021-05-13T20:15:39Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Not to mention, Cox is why we have Newsom.

I think it is highly likely Newsom would have won against even a decent opposition candidate. The Republicans are fighting from behind in California, especially for statewide executive offices. And Newsom is a seasoned, photogenic, TV-friendly campaigner. Cox just made it a super-easy landslide - 62-38%.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/131 "2021-05-13T20:45:34Z")

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Ok, I can accept Cox only turned it into a landslide, but still…

If they had run someone like Arnie, it would have been a race.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/132 "2021-06-24T03:20:42Z")

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And now [the recall election is official](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/politics/gavin-newsom-recall-election-california/index.html). The stupid, it burns.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/133 "2021-06-24T13:35:02Z")

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And expected to cost over $200 million. Oh, well - at least there are no other pressing issues now facing California on which that money might be better spent. 🙄

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/134 "2021-06-24T15:03:36Z")

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And a reminder that the next gubernatorial election in CA is November 8, 2022. The stupid, it burns, but is also knows how to exploit a small seam in the elections process to weasel even the most tiny possibility of winning.

Hopefully, Newsom will crush this dumb recall, then use the results as a cudgel against these dipsticks in that next real election.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/135 "2021-06-24T15:34:14Z")

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Yes, that would buy 20 of the most expensive firefighting aircraft.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/136 "2021-06-24T21:19:46Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Not to mention, Cox is why we have Newsom.

Ah, no. You can’t name a California Republican who could have defeated Newsom. Not because he’s so great in himself. There just aren’t the votes any more to elect a Republican governor, absent really obvious and serious issues with the Democrat, which Newsom did not (and does not) have. See the statistics quoted above about Democratic Party dominance in the state.

I’m far from a fan of Newsom, I think he’s an opportunist of the first water. He talks too much and becomes quickly boring. I don’t think he has a prayer of anything better than maybe US Senator after being Governor. I think he would fail spectacularly if he tried to run for President.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/137 "2021-06-24T22:57:43Z")

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Well, there was Arnold Schwarzenegger. There are Moderate Republicans, and I would have liked to see a choice. Cox is a blithering carpetbagging moron, and _not a choice._ I would rather vote for his bear.

I might even have voted for a real choice. I did vote for Arnie.

But yeah, Newsom is smarmy. And he set gay rights back by his bragging.

Kevin Faulconer is _a choice._ I am not saying I would vote for him, but I would research him, listen to a debate, etc.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/138 "2021-06-25T00:06:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And he set gay rights back by his bragging.

How do you figure?

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/139 "2021-06-25T00:33:04Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I would rather vote for his bear.

Do you suppose the bear could be on the ballot? I mean, I’d still probably vote for Newsom, but it would be interesting to see what a bear could get up to as governor, at least for a little while.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recall-of-gov-gavin-newsom-of-california/938239/140 "2021-06-25T04:24:24Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> But yeah, Newsom is smarmy. And he set gay rights back by his bragging.

Yeah, I don’t understand what you mean. He unilaterally decided to perform gay marriages at San Francisco city hall. IMO that act led, directly, to gay marriage being allowed throughout the country.

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