# Reccomend a VPN fro travel to Germany

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 10, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783 "2019-05-10T15:47:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/1 "2019-05-10T15:47:12Z")

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I’m in the US and will be traveling to Germany for a few weeks - can anyone recommend a VPN?

TIA

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/2 "2019-05-10T16:27:32Z")

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I use IPA and it rarely lets me down.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/3 "2019-05-10T17:32:41Z")

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Can’t seem to find IPA - do you mean PIA?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/4 "2019-05-10T18:17:05Z")

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oops, fancy having a typo on a three letter word! yes, PIA

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/5 "2019-05-10T18:37:08Z")

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Thanks

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/6 "2019-05-11T03:49:24Z")

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I’m an American living in Germany. So far, I’ve had great experience with ExpressVPN. Most of the people in my situation are using the same one, and I’ve never heard a complaint. It’s super easy and it works well.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/7 "2019-05-11T04:11:13Z")

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I subscribe to PIA for a month or two whenever I go on the road. Always seems to work, never had a problem except for a few sites that don’t play well with VPNs (which I don’t consider a PIA issue)

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/8 "2019-05-11T10:47:40Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> I’m an American living in Germany. So far, I’ve had great experience with ExpressVPN. Most of the people in my situation are using the same one, and I’ve never heard a complaint. It’s super easy and it works well.

I got ExpressVPN and SDMB says the IP address is banned ☹

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/9 "2019-05-11T11:14:29Z")

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Perhaps cycle the connection to get a different IP address? That should work in the short term until they get around to expiring the ban.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/10 "2019-05-11T17:07:41Z")

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VPNs are commonly used by spammers, trolls, and socks to avoid country bans and IP bans. We do not actively ban all VPNs, but if we get a lot of abuse on a particular IP we ban it, so we have a lot of VPN IPs on ban.

These bans do not expire.

The same holds true for TOR routing. We don’t routinely ban all TOR exit nodes but we do have quite a lot of them IP banned due to past abuse.

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**Author:** ![yo\_han\_go](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yo_han_go/32/130_2.png) [@yo\_han\_go](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yo_han_go)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/11 "2019-05-12T01:02:21Z")

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Just tested with Betternet VPN. Via US works fine here, but via France does not. Go figure.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/12 "2019-05-12T01:18:55Z")

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If you aren’t worried about other types of traffic than that coming to/from your browser, the latest version of the Opera browser includes free VPN service. It works pretty well IME. It’s got unlimited traffic too. Obviously a solution with limits but if you fit the limits it’s hard to beat free.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/13 "2019-05-12T04:44:49Z")

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Another vote for PIA for a good high speed paid subscription service.

I also have a [travel router](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07712LKJM) with native [OpenVPN](https://openvpn.net/) support (free) and the OpenVPN client on my phone.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/14 "2019-05-12T07:02:41Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> I got ExpressVPN and SDMB says the IP address is banned ☹

Change the server. I’ve never had an issue logging into SDMB with ExpressVPN. And I usually just use the basic US server out of New York.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/15 "2019-05-12T07:05:42Z")

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It’s working fine for me. What server are you using?

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccomend-a-vpn-fro-travel-to-germany/833783/16 "2019-05-12T15:10:22Z")

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It logs me into Frankfurt - I’ll try switching it to NY or Chicago later…
