# Reccommend any good alternative/metal/whatever bands? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 28, 2002, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274 "2002-11-28T02:27:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kombucha\_ShroomPerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@Kombucha\_ShroomPerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kombucha_ShroomPerson)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/1 "2002-11-28T02:27:10Z")
Uh, the title says it all, really. Does anyone know of any good alternative/metal (whatever-I’m no good at defining music into genres\*) bands they think I should look into? I find myself with disposable income that has ALBUMS written all over it, and I wondered if you good people had any suggestions? \*Basically, I’m looking for music thats best played loud, and is angry. As a few examples, my top three most-listened-to bands ATM are probably The Dillinger Escape Plan, (hed)p.e. and Queens of the Stone Age. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/2 "2002-11-28T02:45:06Z")
System of a Down is probably along the lines of what you’re looking for. Also check out Tool. ---
**Author:** ![Kombucha\_ShroomPerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@Kombucha\_ShroomPerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kombucha_ShroomPerson)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/3 "2002-11-28T03:01:02Z")
I’ve already got both SOAD albums. (I took my username from one of their songs - 5 points for knowing which one!) Tool too, I have. Very cool. Still, thanks for your help :). ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/4 "2002-11-28T03:05:39Z")
Jack Off Jill has become one of my favorite bands recently, but that’s just based on 3 songs off of their ‘Covetous Creature’ EP, which I believe is a remix of earlier versions of the songs. Anyway, the songs ‘Poor Impulse Control’, ‘Girl Scout’, and ‘American Made’ are all great. ---
**Author:** ![Frenzy1023](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc29f/32.png) [@Frenzy1023](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frenzy1023)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/5 "2002-11-28T03:58:07Z")
Lets see… Angry and Loud… I would start with Avail, and pick an album, personaly my favorite is “Over the James” but “4AM Friday” would do nicely. The new album by Hot Water Music is oustanding. I believe its their epitaph release which, if i am not mistaken, is also the home of Dillenger Escape Plan. Fear Factory’s Demanufacture was nu-metal before the crap we have now. Boy Sets Fire’s “After the Eulogy” is another one(excellent band to see live as well). I always thought Pennywise’s “About Time” or “Full Circle” sounded kinda angry and makes for good loud music. If you really want something out their but good, try Atari Teenage Riot’s “Burn Berlin Burn”. Hehe, they sample Kreator riffs, mixed with lots of industrial noise. Thats about all I got. I listen to lots of music loud, just I wouldnt call Alkaline Trio, Flogging Molly or Stiff Little Fingers really angry. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/6 "2002-11-28T04:32:53Z")
Here’s a similar [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126260&highlight=metal) that I started a while back on the same topic. I second the recommendation for Jack Off Jill, and if you like them, you should check out Rasputina. ---
**Author:** ![fizgig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f04885/32.png) [@fizgig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizgig)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/7 "2002-11-28T04:41:44Z")
I saw [Trapt](http://www.trapt.com/) last night. Pretty good. Reminded me of Screaming Trees for whatever reason. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/8 "2002-11-28T05:03:09Z")
I don’t listen to much metal, more in the punk genre myself, but I heard Curl Up And Die with Thrice this Halloween, and I think they’re pretty good if you’re into that kind of thing. The songs have hilarious long names and the singer screamed them out at the speed of light… A little too incoherent for me, though it’s virtually impossible to tell the guy is saying anything and not just screaming his heart out. Maybe y’all like that sort of thing though. Good Riddance and Strike Anywhere and the Refused are all more on the hc political punk side of things but are all good fun if you can blank out on some of the more fanatical tin-foil hat anti-government bits. Of the above, I personally prefer Good Riddance the most. I also worship Thrice… melodic hardcore, but pretty angry in some parts. I believe the music is heavily influenced by metal in some ways. A lot of punk/hardcore gets pretty angry in parts, but I don’t know if you’re into that so I’ll shut up… otherwise I could go on forever. I can reel off dozens of names. Tanaqui ---
**Author:** ![Kombucha\_ShroomPerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@Kombucha\_ShroomPerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kombucha_ShroomPerson)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/9 "2002-11-28T13:17:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Jack Off Jill > [@](#): > > Avail > [@](#): > > Hot Water Music > [@](#): > > Boy Sets Fire > [@](#): > > Pennywise > [@](#): > > Atari Teenage Riot > [@](#): > > Rasputina. > [@](#): > > Trapt > [@](#): > > Curl Up And Die > [@](#): > > Thrice > [@](#): > > Good Riddance > [@](#): > > Strike Anywhere > [@](#): > > the Refused Woah, thats plenty to be looking in to. Thanks guys :), keep them coming though, please… > [@](#): > > Alkaline Trio I saw them play last year **Frenzy1023**. I liked them, but I’m not so keep on their albums, for some reason. They seem to lack the energy they have live, IMHO. > [@](#): > > A lot of punk/hardcore gets pretty angry in parts, but I don’t know if you’re into that so I’ll shut up… No no, punk/hardcore good. By all means recommend some. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/10 "2002-11-29T00:14:59Z")
My favorite subject! Seriously, I am a major fangirl and could go on _forever._ Propogandhi and Anti-Flag. More political punk but certainly very angry! Surely you’ve heard (of) the Dead Kennedys? I don’t like them myself, but they’re certainly revered in some circles. If you don’t mind some less angry stuff that can be played loud, AFI is my current love. Some of their older stuff is “harder” so to speak. Operation Ivy is legendary and definitely angry at times though here I’m definitely veering into the lighter sides of things… they’re often known as one of the first bands to integrate ska into punk. The following are bands I don’t listen to myself but are generally well regarded from what I’ve read. You may want to give them a try if you like. Minor Threat Fugazi Killswitch Engage Avenged Sevenfold Strung Out Tsunami Bomb If you like any of these bands I’ve mentioned, just go to their websites and check out the links page. Most of them have links to their favorite bands and bands they’ve toured with. The punk community is pretty close knit. Tanaqui PS: If you check out any of these bands and like 'em, please do post… I’d love to know I’ve made a convert! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/11 "2002-11-29T00:42:36Z")
\*\*SHELLAC SHELLAC SHELLAC\*\* Angry asshole producer of numerous indy rock legends fronts super-tight kick-ass rock ‘n’ roll band. Accept no substitutes. Sample lyric: > [@](#): > > Eat yourself out of house and home > Go home, there’s nothing there, because > You ate yourself out of house and home > Throw up. Do it again. > > Make a meal of nothing at all. > WHY?? It makes you feel better. > The only thing in your life you own. > It’s alright, if it makes you feel better. > > Cut yourself up and down your arms. > Both arms, if it makes you feel better. > They’re your arms, and it’s none of my business. > It’s none of my business, if it makes you feel better. Angry enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![penny\_dreadful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@penny\_dreadful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penny_dreadful)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/12 "2002-11-29T03:56:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ultrafilter \* > \*\* I second the recommendation for Jack Off Jill, and if you like them, you should check out Rasputina. \*\* I saw Rasputina in concert about a month ago. I’ve loved them for years, but their live performance was even better than I expected. Some of their harder stuff definitely fits the OP’s stipulations, but I prefer their slower songs, which are, at times, heartbreakingly beautiful. I had never even heard of the opening act: **Lennon**. But she was loud, angry… and amazing. Imagine if one of the girls from Lilith Fair decide to start an industrial band and that might give you some idea of her sound. She had an enchanting voice, intelligent lyrics, and such energy! I bought her album _5:30 Saturday Morning_ last week, and it’s quickly become one of my favorites. It’s expecially good for rocking out on the way to work in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/13 "2002-11-29T03:59:32Z")
Christ, DEP is about as insanely heavy as you can get. Nothing anyone here lists is gonna be able to touch that. I am really suprised by Mudvaynes new one. It is really good. Much better than LD 50. Also check out Living Sacrifices new one. Man, I am trying to think of any band that can beat DEP in sheer heaviness and insanity but none can. You do have thier newest one that came out a month or so ago right? The one with Mike Patton doing all the vocals? ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/14 "2002-11-29T04:01:14Z")
BTW hed(pe) sux my left nut. Can’t believe I am seeing them in the same sentence as DEP. Killswitch Engage is pretty good for about a week, but then you get tired of it. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/15 "2002-11-29T06:31:23Z")
God Lives Underwater for some older punkish stuff still good: Revolting Cocks ---
**Author:** ![Bindrah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Bindrah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bindrah)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/16 "2002-11-29T18:33:15Z")
i’ve got a few… shelter agnostic front(eighties) madball at the drive in cause for alarm theexploited(early to late eighties) 7 seconds most precious blood hot water music coheed and cambria look the list goes on and on…check out these sites and message boards [victory.com](http://victory.com) [pahardcore.com](http://pahardcore.com) > **[Equal Vision Records](http://www.equalvision.com/)** > > The official website for Albany, NY based independent record label, Equal Vision Records. Home to Chiodos, We Came As Romans, Eisley, and more. [revelation.com](http://revelation.com) ] from there you’ll find links and others of similar interests…i personally back up pahardcore because of the politics and society message board, lots of intelligent people debating and sharing, come by and enjoy…email for more bands i have much music ranging from jazz,indian ragas,rock and so forth…i love all types that isn’t just a carbon copy of the next… ---
**Author:** ![Bindrah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Bindrah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bindrah)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/17 "2002-11-29T18:37:52Z")
oh by the way, a band that WILL beat dep is the cro-mags, those guys were heavy and insane in the early eighties and were singing about krishna in many of the songs…check them out if you doubt it… ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/18 "2002-11-29T19:08:40Z")
**Type O Negative** **Mucky Pup** ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/19 "2002-11-29T22:03:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bindrah \* > \*\*oh by the way, a band that WILL beat dep is the cro-mags, those guys were heavy and insane in the early eighties and were singing about krishna in many of the songs…check them out if you doubt it… \*\* Have you even heard DEP? I have heard Cro-Mags, back in the day anyway, and they don’t even put a dent in the insanity that is DEP. The timing is fucking crazy. Impossible to tap a foot to. ---
**Author:** ![Melon\_Farmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Melon\_Farmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melon_Farmer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274/20 "2002-11-30T10:23:51Z")
I Second **Shellac**. I’ll add **And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead**. I saw them open up for QOTSA and I actually liked them better. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reccommend-any-good-alternative-metal-whatever-bands/139274.md?page=2)