# Recent examples of new foods spreading and getting popular? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [May 29, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957 "2025-05-29T13:40:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/101 "2025-05-31T16:18:55Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > No one has mentioned the history of pizza in the U.S. yet. As recently as the mid-1950s, pizza could only be found in restaurants in big American cities with Italian neighborhoods. I mentioned pizza: > [@Me](#): > > I tend to think of modern as anything in the last century. I kind of get a kick out of old comic strips like _Beetle Bailey_ where our lazy soldier has a bad dream and blames it on the spicy pepperoni from last night’s pizza. Pizza is such a common food now, something a lot of us grew up eating every Friday at the school cafeteria, that it’s hard to imagine it wasn’t that long ago pizza was new and somewhat exotic to a lot of Americans. Tacos are another one. If you lived in places like Texas, California, or the southwestern part of the United States, tacos were pretty well known. If you lived in Wisconsin or Michigan probably not so much. If someone asked if you wanted a taco you might respond, “Is that a Greek dish?” Tacos are everywhere now and so common I don’t really think of it as a foreign dish. I recognize it’s origin as Mexican but it’s just as American to me as Coca-Cola, apple pie, and baseball. Nachos are another fairly recent dish. It was invented in the 1940s and over the next few decades spread throughout the southwest. Nachos started being sold at Arlington Stadium in the Texas in the 70s and Howard Cosell was talking about them on Monday Night Football in the late 70s. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/102 "2025-05-31T16:22:53Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Sometimes it works the other way - like when Koreans started using Spam as a stew ingredient after they were introduced to it by American servicemen. I think the same thing is true in Hawaii; that Spam was introduced to civilians after coming in with the military prior to World War II. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/103 "2025-05-31T16:34:46Z")
Indeed, residents of Hawaii use about 5 cans of spam per year on average. Residents of Guam used about 16 cans of spam per year on average. It’s also common in the Philippines, South Korea, and Puerto Rico. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/104 "2025-05-31T16:38:03Z")
Tacos have been in Chicago for a long time ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/105 "2025-05-31T16:48:55Z")
To be fair, there’s a big difference in Midwestern locations between Chicago – a metropolitan city which is known for its food culture – and which, I’m pretty sure, already had a significant Mexican immigrant population by the 1970s – and small town central Illinois (or Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, etc.) My family lived in suburban Chicago in the early 1970s, and we had tacos regularly; my father worked in the city, and there was a tortilla manufacturing plant near his office; he bought bags of tortillas at the factory store, and brought them home for my mom to use. But, in, let’s say, Rhinelander, Wisconsin (_way_ up north) in the 1970s, you might have _heard_ of tacos, probably from television, but unless you traveled to a bigger city that had a Mexican restaurant (even a Chi-Chi’s or a Taco Bell), there might not have been any place to actually get tacos. Even if you knew someone locally (maybe a transplant) who was familiar with them, buying the tortillas and salsa/sauce might not have been possible at the local grocery store. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/106 "2025-05-31T16:56:48Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > After moving to CA from NYC my father became an early convert to [Peet’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peet%27s_Coffee) in it’s formative years when it had a single location. Peets was preceded by Deidrich Coffee, which started in Southern California in 1972 and, throughout the 80s, provided some of the finest coffee I’ve ever tasted. But they lost in their battle with Starbucks, who purchased them in 2006. It was a sad day, but around the same time, Peets started growing in popularity. I still think that Peets makes an exceptional cup of coffee. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/107 "2025-05-31T17:36:33Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Sounds like a license to sell air. It’s actually not that airy - it looks a bit like challah inside. But with what seems like a pound of butter in each loaf. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/108 "2025-05-31T18:25:16Z")
Another kind of food that’s become common in the U.S. recently is the food served in Ethiopian restaurants. The first Ethiopian restaurant in the U.S. opened in 1966, but it wasn’t until the 1970s and 1980s that they became common in some places. Here’s a table of how many there are in each state (and Washington, D.C.). I know more about this than most Americans because I live in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area. When you include the Maryland and Virginia suburbs, they are much more common than in many parts of the U.S.: > **[There Are 616 Ethiopian Restaurants in the U.S : A State-by-State Breakdown -...](https://www.addisinsight.net/2025/02/26/there-are-616-ethiopian-restaurants-in-the-u-s-a-state-by-state-breakdown/)** > > Addis Insight ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/109 "2025-05-31T19:09:43Z")
There was an Ethiopian restaurant near here a few years ago. I think my mom and I might have been the first white people to eat at it. Unfortunately, it fell victim to covid, like so many other restaurants. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/110 "2025-05-31T19:40:24Z")
> [@kitap](#): > > How about macarons? Popped up everywhere about 10 or so years ago. Yeah, my wife loves them- I do not. > [@Disinfectus](#): > > I still think that Peets makes an exceptional cup of coffee. I am not a big coffee fan, but if I do need a hot beverage with caffeine boost, Peets Mocha does the job very well. And with less sugar and fat that starbux. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/111 "2025-05-31T21:17:22Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Guava’s the same way- everyone knows it, but if you forced them to describe it, they’d probably say “Hawaiian Punch”. I don’t think guava tastes at all like Hawaiian Punch, but we had a guava tree in our backyard when I was little. My mom made guava jam sometimes. I can remember the first time I was in Hawaii and went on a hike near the Seven Sacred Falls, passed a large guava tree covered with ripe fruit, and had such a rush of sense memory back to my childhood from the scent. I always order a guava drink when I eat in a Hawaiian restaurant. > [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > When you include the Maryland and Virginia suburbs, they are much more common than in many parts of the U.S.: Yeah, California has 88 – the next highest is only 55. Not surpised. I’ve seen them a lot here in L.A. for a few decades. ---
**Author:** ![sunacres](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sunacres](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunacres)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/112 "2025-05-31T23:21:41Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Yeah, California has 88 – the next highest is only 55. Not surpised. I’ve seen them a lot here in L.A. for a few decades. That table was frustrating - it didn’t show the number of Ethiopian restaurants _per capita_. Not very informative without that. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/113 "2025-05-31T23:32:28Z")
Foods are like musical notes. The more you have, the more interesting ways in which they can be combined. There will probably never be a finite number of different dishes. Unless, of course, we run out of a vital ingredient. I was watching a documentary the other night in which they showed how the “blackening” craze of the '80s drove the stocks of red sea bass to perilously low levels. ---
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DC, Maryland, Virginia, Washington and Nevada should be top five, but there is a huge gulf between the first two. Two through five are 5-6 restaurants per million population. DC is 49. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/115 "2025-05-31T23:41:56Z")
Per state is also sorta misleading. E.g. They show 7 in the state of Missouri. When I last lived there, 4 of the 7 were in one metro area of ~1M people. I’d tried all 4: they were within a ~10 mile circle of each other. The metro area had multiple choices for that cuisine. The hinterlands had zero cuisine, period. So which capita matters? The local urban pop, or the state pop? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/116 "2025-05-31T23:47:40Z")
These are not that different. Many new dishes fuse things from different cultures, so new ingredients (to most) mean new dishes. Koreans may know gochujang but not necessarily in ice cream or ceviche. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/117 "2025-05-31T23:47:49Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > I was impressed the first time I had burrata because I had just read an article about how it was only made in Italy and had to be flown in fresh. While it is easy to make at home I believe it requires non-homogenized milk to make it and I think that is illegal in the US (it may be possible to get in small amounts if you live near a dairy farm…not sure). ETA: I may be conflating homogenization with pasteurization. I know they are different. I forget which needs to be done in the US (pasteurization I would think). ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957/118 "2025-06-01T00:04:24Z")
You’re invited to create your own table with per capita listings, listings of which cities have the highest numbers and per capita values, and listings by metropolitan areas. ---
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How did they even get the data? ---
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> [@Disinfectus](#): > > > [@Tamerlane](#): > > > > After moving to CA from NYC my father became an early convert to [Peet’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peet%27s_Coffee) in it’s formative years when it had a single location. > > Peets was preceded by Deidrich Coffee, which started in Southern California in 1972 and, throughout the 80s, provided some of the finest coffee I’ve ever tasted. But they lost in their battle with Starbucks, who purchased them in 2006. It was a sad day, but around the same time, Peets started growing in popularity. I still think that Peets makes an exceptional cup of coffee. I’ve never been a fan of the pretentiousness of Starbucks. The best coffee I usually have is the stuff I make at home from fresh-ground beans in a Melitta filter, but, surprisingly, McDonald’s coffee is usually pretty good. I rarely get anything at that place, but a Bacon’n’Egg McMuffin with coffee is a pretty decent breakfast. But for a quick caffeine jolt with minimal effort, nothing beats a small cup of ready-made medium-roast cold brew coffee nuked for 60 seconds in the microwave. I normally can’t stand plain black coffee and always add lots of cream and a little sugar, but cold brew is different. I love it plain black. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-examples-of-new-foods-spreading-and-getting-popular/1018957.md?page=7)