# Recent SDMB peeves, major and minor

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 21, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671 "2005-12-21T19:37:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/61 "2005-12-22T15:41:20Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> So you want an irony-free Dope? Good luck with that.
> 
> Oh, and by the way I was being sarcastic.  
> Seriously, could you flesh out why whooshes bother you? What’s wrong with a pinch of deception in conversation for a good purpose?

Because:

1. Most of the time the ‘whoosh" isn’t "ironic’ at all. “You keep using that word- I do not think that word means what you think it means.”

2. It’s too damn easy to come in with a very stupid or bigoted comment- and then try and rescue yourself with a “whoosh!”.

3. Because GQ- at least- isn’t about 'deceptions", it’s about straight and factual answers. The Mods even discourage too much humour there. Note that I didn’t say that “whooshing” is evil and bad and should be banned everywhere- I said it was bad “in _some_ forums”. I stand by my opinion that - _at the very least in GQ_- it’s a form of trolling and it’s “being a jerk”.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/62 "2005-12-22T15:56:35Z")

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> [@Agent Foxtrot](#):
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> As long as we’re listing SDMB pet peeves:
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> (2) Can we curtail some of the Bush-bashing? Look, I’m one of the most anti-Bush people out there. He’s a liar, a thief, a terrorist, and a spineless nitwit not worthy to lick the sweat from my ballsack.

Ummm…a pet peeve of mine is people who complain about something happening and then do the same thing they are complaining about.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/63 "2005-12-22T16:32:07Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Ummm…a pet peeve of mine is people who complain about something happening and then do the same thing they are complaining about.

But that’s exactly what you just did!  
Daniel

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/64 "2005-12-22T16:50:58Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Ummm…a pet peeve of mine is people who complain about something happening and then do the same thing they are complaining about.

Pardon? When was the last time I joined the Bush pile-on? 😕

Adam

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**Author:** ![Squee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@Squee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squee)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/65 "2005-12-22T17:25:32Z")

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I did in fact read this whole thread, but I failed to see this mentioned:

Anyone who says “Google is your friend”.

No, a friend is someone I play golf with, or go see a movie with. Google is a fucking search engine.

Ok, lame post, but it still irks me like no other.  
Oh, actually one more… Firefox over IE advocates. People who spout this as the best thing since sliced bread. Little do they know since it’s been gaining popularity, it also has been gaining security vulnerabilities. So much for security by obscurity. People, if you are going to advocate something, please at least be informed about the topic you advocating. Parrotting something you heard somewhere should not be used as evidence to make your arguement.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/66 "2005-12-22T17:27:16Z")

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> [@Squee](#):
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> Parrotting something you heard somewhere should not be used as evidence to make your arguement.

See, **lissener**? Same idea, no “meme.”

Okay, I’ll stop picking on you now :D.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/67 "2005-12-22T17:41:09Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> What really annoys me is the intolerance for the very things that make a community a _community_. A shared background, language, slang, approach to Life, etc. Given their druthers, there are some around here that would make this place a sterile, soul-less wasteland of facts. Piss on that! I rejoyce in all that is over-done on the Dope. Every catch-phrase, every recycled joke, every standard response. They are what makes this place what it is: The Best Board On Earth.
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> And I think the correct answer is _Rio_ by Duran Duran.

I, for one, welcome our new SDMB catchphrase-hating overlords.  
(In Soviet Russia, your new SDMB Catchphrase-hating overlords, for one, welcome you!)

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/68 "2005-12-22T17:50:43Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> See, **lissener**? Same idea, no “meme.”
> 
> Okay, I’ll stop picking on you now :D.
> 
> Daniel

Seriously, Daniel (and I struggle mightily to address you that civilly), what’s your problem with me? Start a pit thread and come out from behind the snark shield. I’m flattered that I’m so big a part of your world that you would spend your entire participation in this thread gnawing on my posts for any little fiber you can pick at, but seriously. I used a word according my contextual understanding of its current usage (a usage which, while not necessarily universal, is demonstrably not unique to me). You responded with a disturbingly emotional “correction.” I acknowledged the possible confusion and attempted to clarify. You froth back with basically “Yeah well then, well, then, you’re being, um, you’re being redundant then! Ha! gotcha!” Plus an embarrassingly (embarrassing to you that is) oblique reference (specific attack disguised as general peeve) to my occasionally doing an “and another thing!” followup to my own post. (You’ll deny that was aimed at me. You’ll be lying.) Seriously dude, you need to get out more. I’m not that important.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/69 "2005-12-22T17:53:22Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> 😃
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> And **lissener** – I did read this thread in its entirety. I didn’t read all the linked threads in their entirety because – news flash – if you cite an incorrect source, you’re still incorrect. Read Dawkins and then get back to me on what a meme is.

Apparently you missed where I acknowledged that the way I used the word might not be universally understood to be correct. So the issue had been addressed and covered well before you popped in to restate the same objections that had already been put to bed. THAT kind of “read the thread,” not “read the thread and then post as if you really hadn’t.”

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/70 "2005-12-22T18:01:24Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> You responded with a disturbingly emotional “correction.”

Dude, maybe you didn’t notice, but this is a thread about peeves. How else **can** one react to a pet peeve except to overreact?

> [@](#):
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> Plus an embarrassingly (embarrassing to you that is) oblique reference (specific attack disguised as general peeve) to my occasionally doing an “and another thing!” followup to my own post. (You’ll deny that was aimed at me. You’ll be lying.)

No I won’t: it **was** directed at you, because you do it more than just about anyone except **drmark** , and that’s not company you want to keep. It bugs me, so I posted about it.

You’re not that important, I agree. You’re basically a good guy. But you do some really annoying shit.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/71 "2005-12-22T18:08:42Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Who, me?

No… that’s me…  
😉

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/72 "2005-12-22T18:09:45Z")

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So start a pit thread, and quit with this cowardly disguising a specific personal attack in a general thread on board-wide peeve. Cuz THAT’S some SERIOUSLY annoying hypocritical cowardly shit.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/73 "2005-12-22T18:46:27Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> (1) It came from **The Simpsons**  
> and  
> (2) No, because it came from **The Simpsons**

I can totally hear this post in the voice of Comic Book Guy!

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/74 "2005-12-22T19:00:29Z")

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Ok, I’ve got one that’s actually genuinely been annoying me. It happens when someone starts talking about anything, anything in pop culture, and the first 20 posters in all name something from the past five years. For example:

What’s the best \_\_\_\_\_?

_Answers:_

Buffy  
Buffy  
Firefly  
Serenity!

Like that. Pop culture existed before the last five years, people!

Maybe I’m just getting old.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/75 "2005-12-22T19:16:37Z")

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Sorry – misread your acknowlegement as “this is how everyone uses the word, but if it’s going to get **LHOD** ’s knickers in a twist, I won’t use it that way when he’s around.” Which is where you started with it. You’re right, though, I didn’t follow along as you continued to back away from your misuse step by reluctant step.

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**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/76 "2005-12-22T19:53:50Z")

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Here are two things that really annoy me that are prevalent on many message boards, but I’ve definitely seen them on the SDMB as well:

1. In some completely mundane thread, **Person A** will state their opinion. Then, **Person B** , someone with notoriously opposite political views, will make a post like, "I never thought I’d say this in a million years…but I am fully in agreement with **Person A**. :eek: :eek: :eek: " Oh my fucking God. A diehard conservative and a bleeding-heart liberal both agree that caramelized onions are a quite succulent pizza topping. SOMEBODY GET THESE PEOPLE A FUCKING NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.

2. “I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned \_\_\_\_\_ yet…” in any thread asking for opinions of the best whatever. First of all, almost **always** somebody already mentioned your precious little answer seven pages ago, but you were too busy racing to be the first to assert the essentialness of some obscure indie Japanese gangster rap musical from the mid-80s to read the damn thread. Second of all, even if nobody mentioned the damn thing…who gives a shit? Just give your opinion and don’t subject the rest of us to what Philistines you think we all for not properly tonguelapping your precioussssss.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/77 "2005-12-22T19:57:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The word “meme” contains a hint of “urban legend”–a non fact repeated frequently enough to be taken as fact. Is there a better word that includes that connotation?

> [@](#):
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> I don’t know of another word that means a non fact repeated frequently enough that it comes to be presumed to be an actual fact"; “an idea whose only support of factuality is that it gets repeated a lot.”

“Urban legend” itself, or UL. Brunvand might not be happy with how that phrase has morphed, but that is pretty much how the phrase is used, today.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/78 "2005-12-22T20:09:27Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> “Urban legend” itself, or UL. Brunvand might not be happy with how that phrase has morphed, but that is pretty much how the phrase is used, today.

True, but “urban legend” would not have worked in the context that started this whole odd little trainwreck. I’m gonna use “viral factoid” when Dorkness is around, but probably continue to use “meme” during daylight hours.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/79 "2005-12-22T20:18:39Z")

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> [@Lama Pacos](#):
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> 1. In some completely mundane thread, **Person A** will state their opinion. Then, **Person B** , someone with notoriously opposite political views, will make a post like, "I never thought I’d say this in a million years…but I am fully in agreement with **Person A**.
> 
> 2. “I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned \_\_\_\_\_ yet…” in any thread asking for opinions of the best whatever. .

I have no problem with #1, if said jocularly.

But as for #2, I agree 100%. (and now, Mesmo predicts someone is going to post: “I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned (this pet peeve) yet…” ☹ )

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-sdmb-peeves-major-and-minor/336671/80 "2005-12-22T20:35:44Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> True, but “urban legend” would not have worked in the context that started this whole odd little trainwreck. I’m gonna use “viral factoid” when Dorkness is around, but probably continue to use “meme” during daylight hours.

Knock yourself out, man. Call me hypocritical, disgusting, or bunnyloving, whatever floats your boat. I mentioned a couple of pet peeves that you do that are pet peeves; I didn’t kill your puppy.

Daniel

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