# Recent support for Obama from Democratic bigwigs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 13, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503 "2008-02-13T21:09:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/1 "2008-02-13T21:09:57Z")

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What if the recent surge in support for Obama from powerful democrats is due to these bigwigs’ being happy to have the weaker person in the position of power?

Is that possible? What evidence could be adduced for or against the notion that it is true?

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/2 "2008-02-13T21:13:48Z")

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Why would Democratic bigwigs want to see the weaker person in power? Isn’t it more likely that, as Obama’s campaign grows stronger, a bandwagon effect has come into play?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/3 "2008-02-13T21:20:53Z")

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I think he’s suggesting that these “bigwigs” think they’ll have more influence on Obama. I’m not sure how you would prove or disprove that idea.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/4 "2008-02-13T21:24:17Z")

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The democratic big-wigs you talk of are jumping on the candidate they feel can clearly win against McCain. As more do this, you’ll see the party naturally coalesce towards Obama and then eventually he’ll rise to a nominee.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/5 "2008-02-13T21:27:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
I think he’s suggesting that these “bigwigs” think they’ll have more influence on Obama.  
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Yeah, that’s pretty much what I meant.  
-FrL-

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/6 "2008-02-13T21:29:49Z")

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If I’ve learned anything over the years, the only thing a politician hates more than \*supporting something that turned out to be bad \* is _not supporting something that turned out to be good_.  
Witness the Iraq authorization vote. I’d guess that most of these folks see the writing on the wall and want to back the winner while their foresight can be congratulated.

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/7 "2008-02-13T21:31:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Frylock]  
What if the recent surge in support for Obama from powerful democrats is due to these bigwigs’ being happy to have the weaker person in the position of power?

Is that possible? What evidence could be adduced for or against the notion that it is true?  
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What if the surge is due to these bigwigs being masked zombie vampire wombats, who would be happy to have Obama in a position of power where they could infect him as part of their plan to institute a new world zombie vampire wombat order?

Is that possible? What evidence could be adduced for or against the notion that it is true?

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/8 "2008-02-13T21:41:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
What if the surge is due to these bigwigs being masked zombie vampire wombats, who would be happy to have Obama in a position of power where they could infect him as part of their plan to institute a new world zombie vampire wombat order?

Is that possible? What evidence could be adduced for or against the notion that it is true?  
[/QUOTE]

A few blood tests or semen samples should do the trick.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/9 "2008-02-13T21:47:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Maeglin]  
A few blood tests or semen samples should do the trick.  
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Hey, if you want to get semen from a zombie vampire wombat, be my guest.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/10 "2008-02-13T22:03:53Z")

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Would it be moral to torture Democratic bigwigs with psychic chickens if it meant that Obama got the nomination and saves the world?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/11 "2008-02-13T22:59:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
What if the surge is due to these bigwigs being masked zombie vampire wombats, who would be happy to have Obama in a position of power where they could infect him as part of their plan to institute a new world zombie vampire wombat order?

Is that possible? What evidence could be adduced for or against the notion that it is true?  
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I don’t get it? 😕

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/12 "2008-02-13T23:09:58Z")

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Is this a sequel to your [What’s behind Obama?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=454400) thread?

Why this need on your part to believe someone is secretly controlling (or out to control) Obama? What evidence do you have for your theories?

I was flipping around radio stations last night, and I noticed Michael Savage is pushing this conspiracy-minded “Who are the secret powers behind Obama?” theme. Could that perhaps be where you’re picking it up?

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**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/13 "2008-02-13T23:15:57Z")

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Yes, with each state he wins he looks progressively weaker and weaker to the party establishment. Soon he will have won so many states that there won’t be any more states left to win. Too late will her realize that he is unable to continue his streak of primary victories and having fallen into their clever trap he will become mere fodder for the shadowy puppet masters.

Or they just like to back the winning horse. One of the two I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/14 "2008-02-14T07:48:38Z")

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[QUOTE=omgzebras]  
Yes, with each state he wins he looks progressively weaker and weaker to the party establishment. Soon he will have won so many states that there won’t be any more states left to win.  
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why does that make me think of Galactus?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/15 "2008-02-14T09:03:14Z")

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[QUOTE=spoke-]  
Is this a sequel to your [What’s behind Obama?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=454400) thread?

Why this need on your part to believe someone is secretly controlling (or out to control) Obama? What evidence do you have for your theories?  
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Theories?

I just idly wonder things. For fun.

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/16 "2008-02-14T12:04:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Frylock]  
Theories?

I just idly wonder things. For fun.  
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Sometimes I idly wonder about vampire zombie wombats just for fun, too.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/17 "2008-02-14T13:25:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Maeglin]  
A few blood tests or semen samples should do the trick.  
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Look, if we’re talking politicians here, I’m happy to acquire blood samples but I’m drawing the line at semen samples. **YOU** get 'em.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/18 "2008-02-14T16:50:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
What if the surge is due to these bigwigs being masked zombie vampire wombats, who would be happy to have Obama in a position of power where they could infect him as part of their plan to institute a new world zombie vampire wombat order?

Is that possible? What evidence could be adduced for or against the notion that it is true?  
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I dunno, let me consult the voices in my head.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/19 "2008-02-14T17:55:11Z")

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At first, a lot of people doubted that Obama had a chance: some because of his inexperience (he hasn’t proven himself), some because they wondered whether America was ready to elect a black man. They wanted to support him, but had doubts and reservations about doing so. The more success Obama has, the more he has overcome those doubts and reservations that he is electable.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recent-support-for-obama-from-democratic-bigwigs/437503/20 "2008-02-14T18:24:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
Sometimes I idly wonder about vampire zombie wombats just for fun, too.  
[/QUOTE]

mmm… kay? :dubious:

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