# Recipe variations that ruin a dish for you

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 25, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676 "2017-08-25T18:54:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/21 "2017-08-25T22:11:08Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Anything claiming to be one thing but not actually being that thing. For example, a Reuben is a very specific recipe calling for a very specific set of ingredients, prepared in a specific way. If I order one, I’m expecting a hot, grilled sandwich with corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, and Russian dressing, on rye bread. If you bring me some bullshit with turkey and French dressing on a kaiser roll and try to tell me it’s “your” version of a Reuben, I’m going to tell you to shove it up wherever your species traditionally crams things.

I agree with you.

But I had a Reuben made with pulled pork one time. And while the name was wrong, that sandwich was amazing.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/22 "2017-08-25T22:23:39Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I agree with you.
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> But I had a Reuben made with pulled pork one time. And while the name was wrong, that sandwich was amazing.

Oh, man, that does sound good. I’m gonna have to remember it for the next time I make pulled pork. Your version also had Russian dressing, rye bread, sauerkraut? Or was it more of a Rachel with coleslaw?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/23 "2017-08-25T22:25:47Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Those were probably 3 kinds of chutneys, which one typically gets with all Indian food.

Could be. I know nothing of chutney. I think one was just soy sauce. Either way, the chicken was weird. Maybe more curry than I was expecting.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/24 "2017-08-25T22:26:21Z")

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Dill in potato salad. Yuck  
Raisins in coleslaw. Yuck  
Celery in California Rolls. No thanks

On behalf of my wife: coconut on carrot cake. WTF?

(Raisins in anything. Disgusting garbage masquerading as something edible.)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/25 "2017-08-25T22:32:06Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Could be. I know nothing of chutney. I think one was just soy sauce. Either way, the chicken was weird. Maybe more curry than I was expecting.

Hmmm… I can’t really think of ever seeing soy sauce from Indian take out. Usually I get a green and a red chutney of some sort (usually a mint-coriander chutney and a sweet tamarind chutney. But there are all sorts. Mango chutney, coconut chutney, tomato chutney, etc.) But chicken tikka masala definitely has what I think you are describing as “curry” flavor to it. It’s a particularly creamy and mild curry, but it still has those Indian spices to it.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/26 "2017-08-25T22:34:43Z")

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The simmer sauce I use is definitely spicy, but not so curry-y. Truth be told, I bailed on masala since I found Vindaloo.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/27 "2017-08-25T22:35:38Z")

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> [@ioioio](#):
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> Guacamole made with sour cream, mayonnaise, or godforbid yoghurt. There ought to be a law.

See, the reason that shit is so wrong is that the avocados already do all that work of fatty smoothness. You don’t need another creamy ingredient in there, what’s the point?

The two key ingredients in guacamole are avocado and limon. Other flavors are just adjuncts to those key parts, and if they don’t bring anything to the party then what’s the point?

And the only reason lemon/lime juice is a key ingredient is that without that it’s just slices of avocado–which is completely fine. Plain avocado is just fine as plain avocado, but it’s not guacamole.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/28 "2017-08-25T22:38:28Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I don’t subscribe, so it won’t show it to me (and even if I use incognito mode, it’s smart enough to block me out), but I see the URL and I’m just shaking my head here.

If you have Chrome, right click in the address bar where it says ‘Secure’. Find Javascript and click Always Block on This Site. Refresh the page. Should be past the paywall. Has worked for me for all the ‘popup blocking view’ paywalls.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/29 "2017-08-25T22:38:55Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Those were probably 3 kinds of chutneys, which one typically gets with all Indian food.  
> At the SDMB, ground zero for OCD-ness, not surprising. 🙂
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> This is not a variation, but something I leave off-- Hollandaise sauce for eggs Benedict. That stuff is disgusting. I feel like I’m going to choke to death and have a heart attack every time I just look at it. Ruins good eggses, it does!!
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> I’ve found that if I don’t want it, I have to ask for it on the side (when ordering in a restaurant). If I ask then to hold it, there’s a good chance they’ll forget. The last time this happened, I scraped as much off as I could, and even though I got at least 90% of it off, it still ruined the eggs.
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> I do all kinds of variations on the typical Benedict accompaniments, like turkey or mushrooms or spinach, but no Hollandaise sauce, _si vous plait_!

If what you want is an egg mcmuffin, why are you ordering eggs benedict?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/30 "2017-08-25T22:39:40Z")

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Salad with goat cheese or blue cheese crumbles on it. Shredded cheese I can push aside but that soft crap sticks to and ruins everything it touches. Inedible.

I also hate to bite into a deviled egg and find it has curry powder or something else disgusting in it.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/31 "2017-08-25T22:45:36Z")

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Chicken Fried steak has white gravy not brown, not red, white. This is a non-negotiable feature.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/32 "2017-08-25T23:19:11Z")

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Walnuts.

Why!!!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/33 "2017-08-25T23:20:42Z")

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Also: See raisins.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/34 "2017-08-25T23:21:51Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Hmmm… I can’t really think of ever seeing soy sauce from Indian take out. Usually I get a green and a red chutney of some sort (usually a mint-coriander chutney and a sweet tamarind chutney…

Yeah, those are the two THIN condiments that make up the Holy Trinity of Indian takeout. The tamarind one is dark reddish-brown and nearly reminiscent of chocolate; still really good splashed on a piece of tandoori-ed whatever. Also for dipping a fritter or pakora.

The third is the onion relish, which is heavenly. I make a small bowl of it whenever I cook Indian even though I’m the only one who indulges. SO good I wonder why I don’t make it to serve with everything else.

Chop a medium onion, season with salt and a teaspoon each of paprika and cayenne (more or less cayenne depending on your heat tolerance). Squeeze a whole lemon over it. Stir, cover, and refrigerate for a few hours before dinner. Stir occasionally…the onion will sweat and give up its juices and the end result will be red onion bits In smooth fiery red liquid: the freckles of red pepper you had at the start will have dissolved.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/35 "2017-08-25T23:39:31Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I don’t subscribe, so it won’t show it to me (and even if I use incognito mode, it’s smart enough to block me out), but I see the URL and I’m just shaking my head here.

[A better link.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/07/02/new_york_times_pea_guacamole_controversy_a_deep_analysis_of_the_tweet_that.html)

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/36 "2017-08-25T23:47:07Z")

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> [@spjork](#):
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> Walnuts.
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> Why!!!

Hey, walnuts MAKE the chocolate chip cookie.

Little Pianola and Little Banjo HATE nuts in cookies, so I haven’t baked a proper batch of tollhouse in years. Now that we have an empty nest, the Ukulele Lady is too healthy to eat more than one or two and I got pre onset diabetes.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/37 "2017-08-25T23:55:26Z")

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> [@Tom\_Terrific](#):
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> Oatmeal cookies with raisins in them. Actually, any recipe that has raisins in it. I detest the little shriveled up grapes.

I agree!

> [@spjork](#):
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> Walnuts.
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> Why!!!

One of my pet peeves is when chocolate brownies or chocolate chip cookies are ruined by the addition of walnuts. Why the fuck would anyone _do_ that?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/38 "2017-08-25T23:56:29Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Hey, walnuts MAKE the chocolate chip cookie.
> 
> Little Pianola and Little Banjo HATE nuts in cookies, so I haven’t baked a proper batch of tollhouse in years. Now that we have an empty nest, the Ukulele Lady is too healthy to eat more than one or two and I got pre onset diabetes.

Wha…??? The little ones are grown? What happened to time?

Totally off topic but I remember you biking your kids to school. That was, like, yesterday! P.S. My son is gonna be a father in September. WTF happened?

On topic: I don’t mind raisins in things. Except pasteles. Who puts raisins in pasteles? Crazy people, that’s who.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/39 "2017-08-26T00:47:59Z")

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It makes me stabby when I think I am going to get goulash to eat and instead wind up with a chili-macaroni or tomato-macaroni mixture. Who in the heck decided to call THAT goulash? Ugh.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recipe-variations-that-ruin-a-dish-for-you/794676/40 "2017-08-26T01:00:42Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Oh, man, that does sound good. I’m gonna have to remember it for the next time I make pulled pork. Your version also had Russian dressing, rye bread, sauerkraut? Or was it more of a Rachel with coleslaw?

Russian dressing, rye bread, swiss cheese, and sauerkraut. Toasted on a grill with a pickle on the side. Just like a Reuben except with pulled pork substituted as the meat.

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