Recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital; a Proud Moment

Exactly. Start respecting human life and funding and participating in terrorism. Stop teaching hate at an early age. Then maybe they could negotiate something.

Maybe a deal can be made where they get a piece of the Sanni Peninsula? Of course hate is their goal, not peace. This group badly needs is own Martin Luther King Jr, but the culture they have created and voted for ( HAMAS ) would stoned him once he gained traction as a speaker.

The Sinai Peninsula belongs to Egypt not Israel but even if it did, why would the Palestinians possibly want it?

It’s just like Spanish with its Os and As, only here it is Muslim and Jew, and the stones and trees say one has to die.

Peace will require changing these linguistic habits. Good luck. Any suggestions on how to accomplish that?

“Maybe”. What reason do the Palestinians have to believe that Israel would treat them any differently?

Just “they”? That isn’t quite how it works.

Why? Seriously, why should one country - or territory, if you prefer - be separated by a hostile nation? That didn’t work with Pakistan, which once included what is now Bangladesh, all the way across their mutual enemy, India.

I’m speaking of the Israeli side here. They should negotiate a peace that makes the settlements part of Palestine, where they can hope to be treated better than Arabs in Israel. Whether Fatah could do so without risking the wrath of Gaza and the Arab world is another question, but the backing of the US and a capitulation on East Jerusalem would help.

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I’m not sure what lesson you are trying to draw from this, and how it relates to the Israeli-Palestinian situation, but your understanding of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh is entirely wrong. India is and was not the mutual enemy of Pakistan and Bangladesh; Pakistan was the mutual enemy of India and Bangladesh. Bangladesh gained its independence from Pakistan in 1971 in the Bangladesh Liberation War which arose out of Operation Searchlight, a Pakistani crackdown on Bengali nationalism in what was then East Pakistan, leading to what has been called the 1971 Bangladesh Genocide. 10 million Bengalis fled to India and between 300,000 and 3 million were killed. Unless you feel the West Bank is politically oppressed by the Gaza Strip and fear that the Gaza Strip will launch such a brutal, murderous crackdown on West Bank nationalism that hundreds of thousands of West Bank-ians will flee to Israel leading Israel to be drawn into the West Bank War of Independence freeing the West Bank from the oppressive tyranny of the Gaza Strip I can’t see how the situation is remotely related.

What about the Arab position: 1) No recognition; 2) No peace; and 3) No negotiations?

Whataboutism has been heavily discussed in this forum, and you can explore the subject for yourself if truly so inclined.

U.S. move of U.S. Embassy from Bonn to Berlin. How did we benefit? (link).

It’s not so much “whataboutism” as you can’t negotiate with people who don’t want to negotiate with you.

Exactly. The issue is Israel’s existence as a Jewish state, not borders.

And the Palestinians have every reason to think that, don’t they?

I think you may have missed his point.

He was referring to how at the end of the Six Day War, when the Israelis took the West Bank from Jordan after Jordan foolishly attacked Israel rather than staying out of the war, Israel offered to negotiate a return but the various Arab countries offered their three famous nos. No negotiation, no recognition, and no peace.

His point was the Israelis offered to negotiate and the Arab groups refused. It’s not a case of whataboutism.

Only if they’re grossly ignorant of the history of the reason.

Few of either the Palestinians or the Israelis are, though the same can’t be said for their foreign champions, few of whom could pass a high school history test on the region.

D’oh! “region” not “reason.”

using “Israel-Palestinian peace” in a sentence creates an oxymoron.

Has the Arab position moderated since 1967?

Or if they recognize history as a trap, something to be hurled against the walls and used as a rationalization, rather than something to be recognized and mutually appreciated, then set aside in the cause of creating a peaceful future.