# Recommend a game like Myst, the 2024 thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [March 28, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515 "2024-03-28T17:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/21 "2024-07-22T19:51:12Z")
I am now 10 or so hours into: **Lorelei With The Laser Eyes** and it is both Myst-like and one of the best graphic adventures I’ve ever played. Best to go in completely blind and play it. It has been phenomenal. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/22 "2024-07-22T19:53:48Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Lorelei With The Laser Eyes Sounds good! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/23 "2024-07-22T21:05:06Z")
> [@Briny\_Deep](#): > > Sounds good! It’s amazing. One of the absolute best graphic adventures I’ve played. Plenty of puzzles, and you are just dropped into the game with on idea what is going on. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/24 "2024-07-24T08:13:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Lorelei With The Laser Eyes BTW, thanks for the recommendation here. Seconded that it’s great. Reminds me of _Kentucky Route Zero_, just with more puzzles. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/25 "2024-07-24T13:49:10Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > Reminds me of _Kentucky Route Zero_, just with more puzzles. I would say, and I am not yet down with Lorerlei, that Lorelei has a more coherent story than KR0, which I ended up walking away from shrugging. I’m piecing Lorelei’s story together as I go, but am enjoying it immensely. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/26 "2024-07-24T19:54:12Z")
Yeah, to be honest I don’t even remember if I finished _KR0_. I liked it aesthetically, but not much of it made sense. _Lorelei_ has a similar magical realism and wireframe/lo-fi aesthetic, but you’re right, it’s much more coherent so far. I like that it encourages pen-and-paper notes. I did that with _The Witness_, too. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/27 "2024-07-24T20:43:10Z")
_KR0_ makes perfect sense and is coherent, but literally everything is highly symbolic and/or metaphorical. And, while there is a story of some kind, you’ll be disappointed if you were expecting a linear adventure story or something similar. Can’t say if the Laser Eyes game follows in exactly the same vein because I have not had time to finish it yet. (I gather I am supposed to be an artist named Lorelei, but if put to the question I would not bet on it 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/28 "2024-07-24T21:32:32Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > _KR0_ makes perfect Eh… I guess you could say that it’s internally _consistent_, but I wouldn’t say it makes _sense_. The game takes place in something that at least superficially resembles our world, and in our world it’s just not that difficult to drive a truck from one place to another within an otherwise normal place in the US. It doesn’t make sense that the only way to the destination is through a weird underground road or that there would be so many strange obstacles in the way, even accounting for the existence of vaguely supernatural goings-on. All games have these weird impediments to some extent (why can’t I keep going off the edge of the map?), but they usually try to hide it. Here, it’s basically central to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/29 "2024-07-24T21:37:56Z")
And to add a bit, that sort of thing is common to magical realist works. Like in the film _The Exterminating Angel_, where a bunch of people just can’t seem to leave the room. Why not? They just can’t. _KR0_ is a sort of recognition that the strange logic in magical realist works and the (practical) limitations of video games closely resemble each other. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/30 "2024-07-24T21:43:35Z")
Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I encounter something like that I just chalk it up to “dream logic”, and then it often makes sense. After playing through _KR0_ it seems clear to me that your destination is not a literal physical place but a mental state (for lack of a better word), let’s call it Nirvana or whatever, so it does make sense you can’t so easily get there. Indeed some people are conspicuously absent in the final act… _Lorelei_, right from the beginning so this is not a spoiler, seems to be hammering pretty hard that this is some sort of dream/vision/imagination/film/simulation/whatever and leaning so hard on that fourth wall that that must itself be deceptive, but as I said I need to sit down and play through it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/31 "2024-07-24T21:50:17Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I encounter something like that I just chalk it up to “dream logic” Oh, sure. It’s just that I count that as “not making sense”. It’s fine–I like the air of mystery, in fact–but just as how dreams seem sensible when I’m dreaming and then fall apart when I wake up, dream logic is the same way. And I agree that it’s all highly symbolic, but just like symbolism in other areas you can never _really_ be sure what the author meant (if anything). ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/32 "2024-07-26T23:54:33Z")
OK, for what it’s worth, I finished enough puzzles to reach an ending in _Lorelei_ and my preliminary interpretation is that there _is_ a story. You are indeed Lorelei, and the events of the game are your dying memories, remembering what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/33 "2024-07-27T00:02:25Z")
Not gonna read your spoiler yet. Though I’m far enough in (~70%, according to the save game) that some pieces seem to be coming together. Something I find curious: usually puzzle games have a pretty low completion rate. Or even play-at-least-a-little-bit rate. But _Lorolei_ is pretty high, at least based on the achievements. For instance, there’s a “access all the computers” achievement, which has 45% completion according to the stats. That’s pretty far in! You have to solve some pretty tough puzzles to get that far. In contrast, at the 45% level in _The Talos Principle_ there’s an achievement for basically “try one of the fan puzzles”. Not nearly the same level of completion. I wonder what’s driving the difference. Maybe _The Talos Principle_ was included in some bundles and a bunch of people never got past the main menu. Or something else that drove a difference in the owner population. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/34 "2024-08-01T06:51:09Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > OK, for what it’s worth, I finished enough puzzles to reach an ending in _Lorelei_ and my preliminary interpretation is that there _is_ a story. Finished it myself. Apparently missed one or two things since I only got 99.6% recovery. Didn’t use any hints, though some puzzles were fairly tricky. A couple of them were easy in retrospect but somehow took a long time to click. Guess I might go for a full achievement unlock… I missed a bunch of them. Though it looks like some are very difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/35 "2024-08-01T07:59:33Z")
Apparently I just had to buy two more BYTE SEYES games to get the 100%. Easy enough. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/36 "2024-08-01T08:00:22Z")
I know that if you want to buy everything you need to collect _all_ dollar bills, but do not know exactly how the percentage points are calculated. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/37 "2024-08-01T08:20:43Z")
Seems like all the stuff added up was over the max. $40 for the magician shows, $30 for the BYTE SEYES games, $20 for the plastic trinkets, $10 for the coffee… but aren’t there more things you can order? ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/38 "2024-08-01T08:33:14Z")
That’s all I found, $100 worth of stuff that you can purchase. If you try ordering additional games, for example, they turn out to be out of stock. I have not yet found more stuff that you can order. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/39 "2024-08-01T09:06:21Z")
Ahh, ok. Guess I never tried ordering the other stuff. Well, I didn’t find all $100 anyway; I’m $9 short. Should be relatively easy to figure out from the computer stats display, though. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515/40 "2024-08-01T11:01:52Z")
> [@Briny\_Deep](#): > > Myst and Riven were the only video games I ever really liked, for all the usual reasons people like them: gentle, self-paced, pretty atmosphere, non-violent, non-grossout, non-action-y. Where are we at in 2024 with similar concepts? > > I would like whatever-it-is to be a true game, not a universe you can randomly world-build in for the hell of it. I want stories to figure out, puzzles to solve, once you’ve completed the tasks it says You Win, Game Over. (Or You Lose as the case may be.) Just single-player games, please. Not quite the same because it’s more about the puzzles than any wandering around, but I do love the whole serene aesthetic of **Monument Valley**. There is a story of sorts happening in the background, and if you get the _Forgotten Shores_ add-on and play all eight levels of it between levels 9 and 10 of the main game it actually works to enhance the narrative flow. I haven’t played MV2 though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-game-like-myst-the-2024-thread/999515.md?page=1)