# Recommend a new email provider **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 10, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935 "2017-07-10T16:54:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/1 "2017-07-10T16:54:59Z")
Why are so many provider getting out of email? Verizon being the biggie, but also operamail/fastmail is doing away with free email this month. An email account I’ve had for 7 or 8 years is going away at the end of this month…well the _free_ email is going away; they’re making it a paid model only. Like most people, I’ve have multiple email accounts, personal, professional, junk (store savings, online sales, etc). The junk mail one is going away. I prefer to keep them separate, meaning I don’t aggregate them into one place to read them all. This also means I don’t want Gmail or Hotmail/outlook as you can’t be signed into two different email addresses from the same provider on the same browser. So where else should I sign up for a new, free email account? I kind of remember that Yahoo gets a shit ton of spam in it; is that still true? Given I only check it once a week or so, I don’t want to be overrun with so much spam that I miss the ‘real’ junk. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/2 "2017-07-10T17:03:23Z")
Hotmail is still free. I have two email accounts that are 19 years old. These days they force you to create a outlook account instead. You can create one here. It’s not anonymous anymore. They’ll send a text with an authorization code to whatever number you provide. > **[Sign In](https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=13&ct=1499706223&rver=6.7.6643.0&wp=MBI_SSL_SHARED&wreply=https:%2F%2Fmail.live.com%2Fm%2F&lc=1033&id=64855&pcexp=false&snsc=1)** > > Outlook.com is a free, personal email service from Microsoft. Keep your inbox clutter-free with powerful organizational tools, and collaborate easily with OneDrive and Office Online integration. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/3 "2017-07-10T17:15:39Z")
Otherwise, install your own email server. HmailServer is free and runs on Windows. Super easy. This vid leads you through each step. I’d suggest using an old PC. Install Windows fresh and use it just for email. You can create multiple accounts for personal use and spam. Let it run 24/7. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/73KIfvc16tk/maxresdefault.jpg "How to Create an Email Server using HmailServer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KIfvc16tk) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/4 "2017-07-10T17:22:09Z")
Keep an eye on the server logs. Sometimes spammers find unsecured email servers and exploit them. That’s one of their tricks to hide their real location. Linux has many more choices for email servers. Pine is an old favorite. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/5 "2017-07-10T19:13:15Z")
Get an email client to read your email (like Thunderbird) instead of using a browser. You can set up a separate folder for each email account. You could have multiple email accounts from Gmail or Hotmail. > **[Thunderbird — Make Email Easier.](https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/)** > > Thunderbird is a free email application that’s easy to set up and customize - and it’s loaded with great features! ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/6 "2017-07-10T19:19:26Z")
I have like 5 accounts through Gmail and check them all through one Gmail account. When I go to reply, it automatically replies from the one that was the recipient. When I compose new, I just choose the account I want to send as. I can quickly tell when email comes in which account it’s for, as Gmail labels them. Same as what \*\*PastTense \*\*is saying to do with a local client, really. That’s also a good work-around but some people don’t like clients anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/7 "2017-07-11T01:42:24Z")
Thanks for replying but no one met the requested criteria: An email account that is: [ul] [li]Free[/li][li]Not Gmail or Hotmail/Outlook[/li][li]Doesn’t get lots of spam[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/8 "2017-07-11T02:34:48Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Get an email client to read your email (like Thunderbird) instead of using a browser. You can set up a separate folder for each email account. You could have multiple email accounts from Gmail or Hotmail. > [Thunderbird — Free Your Inbox. — Thunderbird](https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/) I thought of that, but he never specifies if he’s consuming email on desktop or mobile. If it’s the latter, his options are a lot more limited. Same with the making your own server suggestions. Can he speedily check his email with his own private server if his online life is mainly mobile? ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_from\_CB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/278dde/32.png) [@Alex\_from\_CB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_from_CB)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/9 "2017-07-11T02:42:30Z")
> **[Proton Mail — Get a private, secure, and encrypted email](https://proton.me/mail)** > > Proton Mail is the world’s largest secure email service with over 70 million users. Available on Web, iOS, Android, and desktop. Protected by Swiss privacy law. ---
**Author:** ![Nayna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ebca7d/32.png) [@Nayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nayna)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/10 "2017-07-11T02:45:02Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > This also means I don’t want Gmail or Hotmail/outlook as you can’t be signed into two different email addresses from the same provider on the same browser. Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I have three Gmail accounts and keep them all open, on the same browser, all day. They’re just different tabs on my desktop. One is personal, one is work, one is family. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/11 "2017-07-11T02:53:20Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Thanks for replying but no one met the requested criteria: > > An email account that is: > > [ul] > > [li]Free[/li] > [li]Not Gmail or Hotmail/Outlook[/li] > [li]Doesn’t get lots of spam[/li] > [/ul] You gave a reason why you didn’t want gmail and that reason has been incorrect. If you don’t want a gmail account just because, that’s fine but it’s better to explicitly say that or you’ll keep getting post like this one saying you are incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/12 "2017-07-11T02:55:18Z")
I have al GMail, a Yahoo, a Hotmail, and a [mail.ru](http://mail.ru) account. I have a bookmark to each one, it’s easy to hop from one to another., 30 seconds to view my inbox in all four. One for people I know, one for trusted strangers, one for untrusted, one for stealth. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/13 "2017-07-11T03:20:44Z")
I have a Gmail and Hotmail account set up in my phone’s Gmail App. There is an option to merge them into one feed. I keep that disabled. I have two feeds and switch back and forth in Gmail’s App. I sign into my work email from Chrome. I didn’t want to setup that gmail account on my phone. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/14 "2017-07-11T04:15:23Z")
Yahoo! is IME crap now. It may be better if you pay for it, but the free version is spam central and seems to get hacked regularly. I would avoid. **jtur** [mail.ru](http://mail.ru) - what is it? ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/15 "2017-07-11T04:24:48Z")
> **[Tuta Mail: Create a secure, private & encrypted email account for free](https://tuta.com/)** > > Tuta is the secure email service, built in Germany. Use encrypted emails on all devices with our open source email client, mobile apps & desktop clients. [mail.com](http://mail.com)’s OK, but they end it if you don’t log in every now and then My old favourite [vfemail.net](http://vfemail.net) > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **jtur** [mail.ru](http://mail.ru) - what is it? A thing that wise forum-masters block as a sign-up address. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/16 "2017-07-11T14:42:08Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > A thing that wise forum-masters block as a sign-up address. Ive had no problem with using [mail.ru](http://mail.ru) for signups. Even for Skype. It’s a generally reliable service, and can be portaled in English. I’m not extolling its virtues, I only listed it as one of the four reliable online email systems I use. For some, it may also have the advantage of not immediately and automatically turning over everything I do to the NSA. Although the NSA probably has me redflagged simply for using it. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_from\_CB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/278dde/32.png) [@Alex\_from\_CB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_from_CB)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/17 "2017-07-11T14:53:44Z")
> **[Proton Mail — Get a private, secure, and encrypted email](https://proton.me/mail)** > > Proton Mail is the world’s largest secure email service with over 70 million users. Available on Web, iOS, Android, and desktop. Protected by Swiss privacy law. Free, no ads. Was highly recommended by some computer site that was comparing email for security. protonmail ranked highly in that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/18 "2017-07-11T15:25:39Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > Ive had no problem with using [mail.ru](http://mail.ru) for signups. Even for Skype. It’s a generally reliable service, and can be portaled in English. > > I’m not extolling its virtues, I only listed it as one of the four reliable online email systems I use. For some, it may also have the advantage of not immediately and automatically turning over everything I do to the NSA. Although the NSA probably has me redflagged simply for using it. It’s not [mail.ru](http://mail.ru) being blocked _per se_, no matter how one loves our Slavic comrades \*\*\*.ru \*\*is _verboten_ generally. It’s to do with history rather than anything in Vladland now: at the beginning of the century RU was sending out a lot of spam sign-ups, coincidentally as they were revolutionising internet porn. THey did great things, great things… Anyone remember [MET.COM](http://MET.COM) ? **[Having a serious issue with spammers or whatever you call them registering to my site. about 50% of them have a email that is a @mail.ru](https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1451895)** **[I am innundated by @mail.ru and @sina.com user accounts. I am already blocking the IP with .htaccess.](https://www.drupal.org/node/2306665)** **[HOW TO BLOCK @MAIL.RU EMAILS FROM REGISTERING ON MY SITE](https://premium.wpmudev.org/forums/topic/how-to-block-mailru-emails-from-registering-on-my-site?ptm=c&utm_expid=3606929-108.O6f5ypXuTg-XPCV9sY1yrw.2&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F)** Note, I would never country block. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/19 "2017-07-11T17:28:20Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Thanks for replying but no one met the requested criteria: > > An email account that is: > [ul] > [li]Free[/li][li]Not Gmail or Hotmail/Outlook[/li][li]Doesn’t get lots of spam[/li][/ul] Try Protonmail. They have a free offering which meets those requirements. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935/20 "2017-07-11T17:29:41Z")
Ah, replied without reading the thread properly. Already recommended, I see. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-a-new-email-provider/790935.md?page=2)