# Recommend me a good common red wine

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** wine\
**Created:** [June 9, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354 "2008-06-09T19:40:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/1 "2008-06-09T19:40:03Z")

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I like to drink a little sometimes, and red wine sounds like as good a drink as any since it’s supposed to be good for your heart. What’s a good “supermarket” red wine? I look down the aisle and there’s a bewildering array of choices, most of them don’t say “red wine” at all. So what are the basics of what I need to know?

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/2 "2008-06-09T19:47:07Z")

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What’s your price range?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/3 "2008-06-09T19:48:13Z")

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I like Blackstone Syrah (or Shiraz, I can’t remember now which they call it). It’s pretty cheap, too.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/4 "2008-06-09T19:54:44Z")

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I’m a big fan of [Ravenswood Zinfandel](http://www.ravenswood-wine.com/wines/lodi_zin.asp).

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/5 "2008-06-09T19:56:24Z")

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Best combo of price/taste. Like $10. 😃

Thanks for the suggestions, keep them coming. I should be able to find at least one of them around here.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/6 "2008-06-09T19:56:43Z")

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Folie a Deux - Menage a Trois. It’s a blend of Zen, Cab and Merlot, reasonably priced at around $10 and it’ll appeal to almost anyone’s palate. You should be able to find it in your grocery as ours and most every one I’ve visited carries it.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/7 "2008-06-09T20:19:22Z")

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I’m fond of yellowtail Shiraz as a decent inexpensive wine.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/8 "2008-06-09T20:21:15Z")

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Are there Trader Joe’s in Virginia? If so, try Two-Buck Chuck. Otherwise, Yellowtail produce a nice line, as does Gallo of Sonoma.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/9 "2008-06-09T20:29:23Z")

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I am a fan of Trader Joe’s French Market Merlot. It goes for about $4 in St Louis. It is a very pleasant drinkable wine thats a great compliment for most meals.

Their Chardonnay is very good too if you want a white wine now and then.

I am also a fan of [Bolla](http://bolla.com) italian red wines, their Valpolicella is my favorite - they generally go for between $8-$10.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/10 "2008-06-09T20:31:23Z")

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Food Lion is the best we have close by. Otherwise it’s just small local stores.

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Clos du Bois Merlot can be had for $14-18 per bottle around here (Phoenix). It’s my favorite.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/12 "2008-06-09T21:02:32Z")

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[Reserve Perrin](http://www.perrin-et-fils.com/beaucastel/2005/08/cotes_du_rhone_.html) is one of my favourite reds, and usually in the same price range (Ontario prices are very different from US, so I’ll just say it should be within a dollar of so of the excellent Yellow Tail mentioned upthread)

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Since I come from Australia, and since I lived for most of my life in one of the great wine-producing areas in the world (the Hunter Valley), I am, of course, biassed.

However, I’ve rarely been disappointed by an Australian shiraz, and you can get quite reasonable brands of that in American supermarkets for $7-$10 per bottle (including the Yellowtail Shiraz that **Cheesesteak** mentioned). A bit more than that will get you a Rosemount Estate Diamond Label shiraz, and that a very nice wine.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/14 "2008-06-09T21:17:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Cheesesteak]  
I’m fond of yellowtail Shiraz as a decent inexpensive wine.  
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I’ll second that for an enjoyable shiraz with a decent body and aroma to it. Nothing complex, but it goes down well, and you can catch it for US$5-US$6 on sale. The Special Reserve is nasty, though; avoid it like the plague.

For a modest step up, I really like the Bonny Doon Big House Red as a reasonable red table wine. It should run between US$9-US$12.

There are a lot of very nice Italian wines based on [Sangiovese](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangiovese) and [Primativo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitivo) (Zinfindel) varietals that are around the US$8-US$15 range. There are also some excellent Malbecs out of Argentina and Chile that are in or close to the sub-US$10 price range.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/15 "2008-06-10T00:18:53Z")

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While we’re on the Shiraz train, I prefer the Black Opal over the YellowTail. Usually runs for about $8.00 and is my “go to” if I get stuck having to purchase wine from a grocer.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/16 "2008-06-10T05:54:18Z")

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Craneford shiraz is really good if you are willing to go to the $15 price range.

A really good merlot is Oyster Bay from New Zealand. It’s around $12.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/17 "2008-06-10T06:19:51Z")

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[QUOTE=lieu]  
Folie a Deux - Menage a Trois. It’s a blend of Zen, Cab and Merlot, reasonably priced at around $10 and it’ll appeal to almost anyone’s palate. You should be able to find it in your grocery as ours and most every one I’ve visited carries it.  
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This is the one I came in to post. It’s really yummy and everyone I’ve served it to has said “wow, this is good, what is it?”

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/18 "2008-06-10T13:17:14Z")

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Listen to \*\*lieu \*\*and \*\*Opal \*\*- they know of what they speak. You can’t go wrong with Menage a Trois.

Red Truck is also good.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/19 "2008-06-10T13:20:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Snickers]  
You can’t go wrong with Menage a Trois.  
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Words to live by?

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-a-good-common-red-wine/452354/20 "2008-06-10T14:00:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Snickers]  
Listen to \*\*lieu \*\*and \*\*Opal \*\*- they know of what they speak. You can’t go wrong with Menage a Trois.

Red Truck is also good.  
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Eh. I didn’t think it was that great. Rather ordinary, IIRC.

Search out the old threads of the Straight Dope Wine Club in this forum. We talked about all sorts of cheap plonk. 😃

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