# Recommend me some blood pumping orchestral music

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**Created:** [May 23, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210 "2007-05-23T12:41:59Z")\
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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Tchaikovsky’s Fifth Symphony has some blood-pumping passages, and of course the rousing _The 1812 Overture_.  
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I would have suggested his Fourth, as one that starts out loud and forceful, in a Beethoven’s Fifth kind of way.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/22 "2007-05-23T15:46:00Z")

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A little Bruckner cranked up to 11 is always a good way to wake the dead and bother the neighbors.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/23 "2007-05-23T17:11:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Figaro]  
Here are a few not yet mentioned:

Tchaikovsky - \*1812 Overture \*  
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:dubious:

Baldwin beat me to it - _Scheherazade_ and _Mars_ for sure! John Williams basically pirated _Mars_ for Darth Vader’s theme.

It’s not always an orchestral piece (can be done on a pipe organ), but HAS been orchestrated - Bach’s _Toccata and Fugue in D_.

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[QUOTE=fessie]  
It’s not always an orchestral piece (can be done on a pipe organ), but HAS been orchestrated - Bach’s _Toccata and Fugue in D_.  
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Who orchestrated it? Ravel?

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/25 "2007-05-23T17:33:30Z")

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> Who orchestrated it? Ravel?

There are several orchestrations, but none I know of by anyone famous. The one I’m most familiar with is the used in **Fantasia**.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/26 "2007-05-23T17:38:23Z")

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That’s exactly what I was thinking - _Fantasia_.  
_West Side Story_ has some great stuff, too. Plus _Officer Krupke_ to crack you up!

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/27 "2007-05-23T17:41:21Z")

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The music from the Nightcrawler attack scene in _X2_, Mozart’s ‘Dies Irae’ from his _Requiem_, is pretty awesome. Give Beethoven’s “Rage Over the Lost Penny” (_Rondo a capriccio_ in G major, Op. 129) a shot as well, if you can find a decent recording of it.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/28 "2007-05-23T18:02:26Z")

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I haven’t heard anything by Beethoven that’s _blood-pumping_ other than this, but the Egmont Overture by him qualifies, if a bit straightforward.

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**Author:** ![Figaro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ea666f/32.png) [@Figaro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Figaro)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/29 "2007-05-23T18:17:55Z")

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[QUOTE=fessie]  
:dubious:  
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Dissing my powers of observation, eh? Well…hey…where did I put my keys…?

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/30 "2007-05-23T19:07:54Z")

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[QUOTE=fessie]  
_West Side Story_ has some great stuff, too. Plus _Officer Krupke_ to crack you up!  
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Officer Krupke is, IMO, a very weak point in the show.

The _Symphonic Dances from West Side Story_ is a good route to go if it’s pure orchestral music you’re after.

[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
There are several orchestrations, but none I know of by anyone famous. The one I’m most familiar with is the used in **Fantasia**.  
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Stokowski made that arrangement. [This](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-Stokowski-arrangements-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B000002S9M/ref=sr_1_1/026-9515850-2701250?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1179947209&sr=8-1) provides that and more of the same.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/31 "2007-05-23T21:23:21Z")

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You can get free, decent-quality mp3s of several of the pieces mentioned as well as other good pieces at these sites:

[http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/584](http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/584)

[http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/743](http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/743)

[http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cuo/audio.html](http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cuo/audio.html)

Wagner: Tannhäuser overture. Rienzi overture.

Dvorak: Carnival Overture.

Smetana: the Moldau. IMO the rest of _Ma Vlast_ is inferior to it.

Ravel: _Daphnis and Chloe_ suites 1 and 2. The first suite ends with “danse guerrière” (“warlike dance” according to AltaVista translations) and the second with a bacchanal.

Ravel: Rapsodie Espagnole, last movement.

Debussy: _La Mer_, especially the last movement; second nocturne for orchestra, _Fêtes_ (festivals).

Liszt:_Totentanz_ (dance of death).

Borodin: Polovtsian Dances from _Prince Igor_.

Beethoven: Coriolan overture. Egmont overture (seconded).

Rachmaninoff: Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini. Symphony #2.

This is a decent collection for the price: [Amazon.com: Symphonic Spectacular: CDs & Vinyl](http://www.amazon.com/Symphonic-Spectacular-Georges-Bizet/dp/B000003CUY/ref=sr_1_7/103-5286797-2981441?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1179952429&sr=1-7)

All the selections are good. I like the Shostakovich and the Halvorsen pieces best.

[QUOTE=GorillaMan]  
Officer Krupke is, IMO, a very weak point in the show.  
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In what way? True, it’s basically comic relief and doesn’t continue the arc of the drama, but WSS is a musical, not an opera.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/32 "2007-05-23T21:26:47Z")

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I used to have a collection called _Classical Thunder_ that was right up this alley, but I’m having a hard time remembering anything on it other than what’s already been mentioned…

Oh, yeah, toss in Strauss’ _Also Sprach Zarathustra_. It’s very short, though, and most of Strauss’ other work isn’t nearly the same style.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/33 "2007-05-23T21:45:15Z")

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A recording of The Internationale with orchestral accompaniment can be damned impressive stuff. There are a bunch of good ones here, all free: [http://www.hymn.ru/internationale/index-en.html](http://www.hymn.ru/internationale/index-en.html)

I like the Russian ones from the Soviet era, but the French is arguably more “authentic” - the song was originally written in French.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/34 "2007-05-23T21:56:14Z")

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I like Howard Shore’s music for any of the _Lord of the Rings_ movies, but I think my favorite piece is the heart-thumping dwarvish-sounding crescendo during the race for the bridge in Moria, and during the fall of Gandalf and the Balrog at the beginning of the second movie. Great stuff!

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/35 "2007-05-23T21:56:29Z")

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[QUOTE=rowrrbazzle]  
In what way? True, it’s basically comic relief and doesn’t continue the arc of the drama, but WSS is a musical, not an opera.  
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It just seems to just be shoved in as unnecessary padding. And for me, the humour grates.

[QUOTE=Chronos]  
Oh, yeah, toss in Strauss’ _Also Sprach Zarathustra_. It’s very short, though, and most of Strauss’ other work isn’t nearly the same style.  
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Half an hour counts as very short, does it? 😉 (The bit from _2001_ that’s included on compilations is only the opening, ‘Sunrise’.)

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
Even though it’s used a lot, I never get tired of Holst’s _Mars, Bringer of War_.  
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I jumped in here to recommend that piece specifically. Mars is probably one of the most…emotionally blood-pumping orchestral pieces ever penned. _Jupiter, Bringer of Jollity_ is also emotional, but in a happy kind of way. Mars is scary.

Hell, just buy the whole Planets symphony. It’s all great.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/37 "2007-05-23T22:56:09Z")

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[QUOTE=SpazCat]  
Hell, just buy the whole Planets symphony. It’s all great.  
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[unnecessary nitpick]Suite, not symphony[/unnecessary nitpick]

I agree, though, it’s certainly a piece worth hearing in full.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/38 "2007-05-23T23:29:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
I haven’t heard anything by Beethoven that’s _blood-pumping_ other than this, but the Egmont Overture by him qualifies, if a bit straightforward.  
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Put on the 5th symphony, 3rd movement. Crank up your speakers at the end where it gets very quiet (just pizzicatto strings, then tympany, going bum-ba-ba-bum; ba bum; ba bum…). Keep the volume up as it transitions seamlessly into the 4th movement. It’ll make your hair stand on end.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/39 "2007-05-23T23:51:25Z")

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[QUOTE=SpazCat]  
I jumped in here to recommend that piece specifically. Mars is probably one of the most…emotionally blood-pumping orchestral pieces ever penned. _Jupiter, Bringer of Jollity_ is also emotional, but in a happy kind of way. Mars is scary.

Hell, just buy the whole Planets symphony. It’s all great.  
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I remember another Doper commented that Mars makes him want to stand on a balcony and laugh while his armored divisions roll past on the street below. It’s absolutely true.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-blood-pumping-orchestral-music/405210/40 "2007-05-23T23:52:22Z")

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Louis Gottschalks wrote and performed music that was ment to bring the audience to its feet. Consider giving him a try.

While he wrote for and performed on the piano, go for the complete blood-pumping experience. Avoid any CD labeled piano music and get the fully orchestrated stuff.

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