# Recommend me some 'trippy' classical music.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 23, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892 "2008-02-23T22:57:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![percussion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@percussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percussion)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/21 "2008-02-25T11:27:50Z")
You may be into John Adams, [Century Rolls](http://earbox.com/W-centuryrolls.html) or [Shaker Loops](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aLwfDoaCsw) ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/22 "2008-02-25T12:53:37Z")
How about Ravel’s Bolero? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/23 "2008-02-25T17:55:10Z")
[QUOTE=percussion] I don’t think thats actually true, Granted there are some parts of that symphony in which you feel a little un sure of footing, But not more so than the typical Beethoven mindfuck that goes on once you see his music with a score [/QUOTE] While a cite from Wiki is hardly proof, it’s an indication at least that I’m not the only person who hears it that way. [ > [@Wikipedia](#): > > ]([Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=beethoven%27s+eighth+unbuttoned&btnG=Google+Search)) > Various passages in the symphony are heard by many listeners as musical jokes. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/24 "2008-02-25T18:06:59Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] While a cite from Wiki is hardly proof, it’s an indication at least that I’m not the only person who hears it that way. [URL=[Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=beethoven%27s+eighth+unbuttoned&btnG=Google+Search)] [/QUOTE] Wrong link, missed edit window: > **[Symphony No. 8 (Beethoven)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._8_%28Beethoven%29)** > > The Symphony No. 8 in F major, Op. 93, is a symphony in four movements composed by Ludwig van Beethoven in 1812 and his penultimate and shortest symphony. Beethoven fondly referred to it as "my little Symphony in F", distinguishing it from his Sixth Symphony, a longer work in the same key. > The Eighth Symphony is generally light-hearted, though not lightweight, and in many places loud, with many accented notes. Various passages in the symphony are heard by some listeners to be musical jokes. As... ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/25 "2008-02-25T20:48:23Z")
Grainger’s Lincolnshire Posy suite is like that. Some of the pieces are entirely in weird meters: [Lord Melbourne](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCGd_j17dZA&feature=related) - doesn’t even have a time signature at the outset. At others the signature shifts into 1.5/4 and 2.5/4. [Rufford Park Poachers](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6foSsvNedc8&feature=related) - I can’t remember what signatures it’s in, but they are definitely odd. And a couple of the rest have a spot or two where the meter will suddenly change from something common to something odd and then go back again. [Horkstow Grange](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf2P_5ECBek&feature=related), my favorite in the suite, switches between 4/4 and 5/4. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/26 "2008-02-26T20:53:29Z")
[QUOTE=percussion] But not more so than the typical Beethoven mindfuck that goes on once you see his music with a score [/QUOTE] This sounds very like a priceless moment I had not long ago, while teaching a very polite, demure 14-year-old girl: _“…this bit is Beethoven fucking about with the audience, so what you need to…hang on, did I just say that?”_ ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/27 "2008-03-01T17:28:12Z")
Sorry to wake this one up (though I suspect it’s not dead, just… resting), but I was listening to some stuff here, and I have… (_counts_)… six words for you: Ravel’s piano concerto in G major. ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/28 "2008-03-02T06:35:24Z")
‘E’s pinin’ for the fjords! More thanks to everyone for their recommendations. I’m trying to give each suggestion an honest listen, including the ones that I’m already familiar with. So far the ones that best match my ideal are the Stravinsky and Grainger pieces. I liked **jovan** ’s idea of Baroque music that’s been choppily spliced. If anyone still has the energy to reply, does that description ring any more bells? ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/29 "2008-03-02T07:27:25Z")
When you write _“recommend **me** some trippy classical music”_ are you asking for someone to recommend \*\*you \*\*to some trippy classical music? Or are you asking for someone to recommend some trippy classical music to you? It is not clear from the heading of your thread. As the former intention is rather nonsensical I suspect your intention is the latter. In which case you could have simply stated: _“recommend some trippy classical music”._ Or, if you felt compelled to specify that any recommendations would be for you: _"recommend some trippy classical music_\* to me\*\*."\* ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/30 "2008-03-02T13:37:47Z")
It isn’t classical—I think—but listen to the introduction to “One Night in Bangkok.” [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y-4I1JHJIE) ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/31 "2008-03-02T13:43:26Z")
[QUOTE=I Love Me, Vol. I] When you write _“recommend **me** some trippy classical music”_ are you asking for someone to recommend \*\*you \*\*to some trippy classical music? Or are you asking for someone to recommend some trippy classical music to you? It is not clear from the heading of your thread. As the former intention is rather nonsensical I suspect your intention is the latter. In which case you could have simply stated: _“recommend some trippy classical music”._ Or, if you felt compelled to specify that any recommendations would be for you: _"recommend some trippy classical music_\* to me\*\*."\* [/QUOTE] No, according to a teacher I knew (who knew waaaay too much about the English language), the O.P. is correct as stated. The “to/for” is implied for an indirect object. Rephrasing it as ILM suggests merely changes “me” to the object of a preposition. ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/32 "2008-03-02T15:56:27Z")
[QUOTE=I Love Me, Vol. I] When you write _“recommend **me** some trippy classical music”_ are you asking for someone to recommend \*\*you \*\*to some trippy classical music? Or are you asking for someone to recommend some trippy classical music to you? It is not clear from the heading of your thread. As the former intention is rather nonsensical I suspect your intention is the latter. In which case you could have simply stated: _“recommend some trippy classical music”._ Or, if you felt compelled to specify that any recommendations would be for you: _"recommend some trippy classical music_\* to me\*\*."\* [/QUOTE] Whether or not it fits your [prescriptivist](http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005414.html#more) worldview, “[recommend](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=456172&highlight=recommend)[me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=456116&highlight=recommend)” [is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=455855&highlight=recommend)[a](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=455395&highlight=recommend)[usage](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=454521&highlight=recommend)[that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=454311&highlight=recommend) [is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=453983&highlight=recommend)[hallowed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=453949&highlight=recommend)[by](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=453558&highlight=recommend)[tradition](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=453155&highlight=recommend) [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452853&highlight=recommend) [at](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=451183&highlight=recommend)[the](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452181&highlight=recommend)[SDMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=450531&highlight=recommend). Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to quickly check whether the car needs washed and find out where the Harvard library’s at. Hopefully you understand. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/33 "2008-03-02T16:27:28Z")
[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] I suspect there may be some Charles Ives stuff that’s just what you’re looking for. [/QUOTE] Careful though. Ives liked dissonance, and not just the harmonic kind, but _clash_. He was the original two-radios-tuned-to-different-stations man, before there even were radios. I do distantly recall one or two little folky-type tunes he did in off-meters, though. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/34 "2008-03-02T16:35:00Z")
[QUOTE=Beware of Doug] Careful though. Ives liked dissonance, and not just the harmonic kind, but _clash_. He was the original two-radios-tuned-to-different-stations man, before there even were radios. [/QUOTE] Yeah, listening to Ives is sometimes like listening to a symphony concert in a New England town while a church choir rehearses next door and a brass band goes marching down the street outside. I don’t know whether he played around with meter, but he sure played around with some things. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/35 "2008-03-02T19:04:32Z")
[QUOTE=Beware of Doug] Careful though. Ives liked dissonance, and not just the harmonic kind, but _clash_. [/QUOTE] I think this could be somewhat misunderstood. Listening to Ives is hardly like taking on Xenakis or Stockhausen (brilliant though those two are). Bach liked dissonance. Really scrunchy clashing moments. We’re just more familiar with them. Ives fits in perfectly with the OP’s request for: [QUOTE=brossa] A ‘normal’ time signature is fine, as long as things still feel kind of skippy or trippy. Maybe there are overlapping melodic lines that are sort of out-of-phase. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![phil417](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@phil417](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phil417)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/36 "2008-03-03T02:57:32Z")
Don’t know whether it classifies as classical, but how about the theme from _The Exorcist_[http://youtube.com/watch?v=bYmIKcP7Nbc](http://youtube.com/watch?v=bYmIKcP7Nbc) ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/37 "2008-03-03T04:29:00Z")
You might like Zappa’s _The Yellow Shark_. It’s strictly chamber music, not rock. It does get harmonically thorny in parts, but it has polyrhythm in spades, and several selections fit the ‘chopped up Baroque music’ description to a T. [Here’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LYPsasYlHY) a YouTube video that has some rehearsal footage. It’s shot in kind of an oblique. arty way, but you can get a good sense of the music at least. ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/38 "2008-03-03T04:37:27Z")
_Just_ missed the editing window! I wanted to add that there is some not-safe-for-work language towards the end of that video. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/39 "2008-03-04T09:07:54Z")
[QUOTE=brossa] Whether or not it fits your prescriptivist worldview, “recommend me” is a usage that is hallowed by tradition here at the SDMB. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to quickly check whether the car needs washed and find out where the Harvard library’s at. Hopefully you understand. [/QUOTE] Now’uns, I’d done knows that whats done speaked was thinked being’ reality pure English where on those Messaging Board. Me way far beyond big curve by that what me wrote here. many best future linguisms from i here. all the times changed evolved language be English, so that you speaking very much righteous-true. Little Johnnie happy he grammar all times good-like, never not right. him all get still only best marks from teaching man. I happy–you so good right! Living language! can’t not do no wrongs! There isn’t none wrong grammar no more!!! ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892/40 "2008-03-04T09:37:35Z")
The first thing I thought of when I read the OP was Philip Glass’s _Prelude To Akhnaten_ from his _Violin Concerto_. You can listen to it, and lots of other stuff in streaming audio, [here](http://www.philipglass.com/music/index.php) under listen/watch. It is a really weird piece in which the same musical figure is repeated over and over with changes in emphasis that seem make the whole hypnotic and trick the ear into hearing non-existent changes of rhythm. It is a really clever trick. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-me-some-trippy-classical-music/438892.md?page=3)