# Recommend some good books on Evolution **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 9, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798 "2004-11-09T05:55:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tinker\_Grey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tinker_grey/32/8136_2.png) [@Tinker\_Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinker_Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798/41 "2004-11-19T18:16:12Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > [Finding Darwin’s God](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060930497/qid=1100874682/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-2657833-7530315?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) by Kenneth Miller. Although the stated goal of the book is to argue that acceptance of evolution is not incompatible with theism, along the way Miller makes short work of most of the popular anti-evolution arguments, including the “irreducible complexity” argument of Behe and Philip Johnson’s aforementioned book _Darwin on Trial_. I second this. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798/42 "2004-11-19T18:59:10Z")
> [@Rashak Mani](#): > > hmmm… I can afford only so much time and money… I can’t buy all 3 books. Of these 3 which 2 should I buy ? > > a. On Human Nature by Edward O. Wilson > > b. Human Natures: Genes, Cultures, and the Human Prospect by Paul R. Ehrlich > > c. The Third Chimpanzee Add rank them c, a, b. (Wilson won the Pulitzer prize for “a”, btw) You might want to see if your library has them. I usually check these types of books out first, then decide which one I will read. And if you have stores like Borders or Barnes/Noble in Brazil, they don’t mind if you spend a good of time thumbing thru books before buy them. And just to complicate things a bit more, you should also check out Genes, Languages, and People per my earlier post. I’d recommend that one over any of the others anyday. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798/43 "2004-11-19T19:08:28Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > You might want to see if your library has them. I usually check these types of books out first, then decide which one I will read. And if you have stores like Borders or Barnes/Noble in Brazil, they don’t mind if you spend a good of time thumbing thru books before buy them. > > And just to complicate things a bit more, you should also check out Genes, Languages, and People per my earlier post. I’d recommend that one over any of the others anyday. hehe… no such thing as an amazon here… well not with english speaking books. I usually order it in Amazon and just pay the horrendous shipping bills. I never read translations into portuguese if they are originally in english either… I’ll check out this last recomendation in amazon… ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798/44 "2004-11-20T19:19:54Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > “The Rise and Fall”? I think you are thinking of just “The Third Chimpanzee”. I’ve never heard of the title you mention, unless [Diamond](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-0055084-4211044) has published a new book not listed on [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com). Looks like it was given a [slightly different title in the UK from the US.](http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0099913801/qid=1100978575/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-9087847-1992447) Can’t think why, except to emphasis Diamond’s warning that our evolutionary traits that have been our strengths for so llong can so easily cause our downfall. > [@](#): > > It’s a pretty good book, though somewhat dated. Have we evolved that much since 1991? 😕 (Just kidding. But has evolutionary theory changed so significantly since then either?) ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798/45 "2004-11-20T19:51:17Z")
> [@Futile Gesture](#): > > But has evolutionary theory changed so significantly since then either? The basic premise has not changed at all. But new information supporting the theory, as well as new applications for the concept of natural selection are cropping up all the time. And then there’s always Darwin’s debunkers, who usually illicit another spate of book-writing whenever they come up with a new “proof” that Darwin was wrong. There’s actually a decent article in either the current or the last issue of Natl. Geographic, titled “Was Darwin Wrong?”. I won’t give away what the answer is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recommend-some-good-books-on-evolution/273798.md?page=2)