# Recreational marijuana for Vermont!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 10, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365 "2018-01-10T21:37:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/1 "2018-01-10T21:37:25Z")

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[Vermont senate passes bill to legalize marijuana use](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vermont-senate-passes-bill-legalize-marijuana-use-n836536)

I didn’t see any other threads on this news so light one up for me! (In July) 🙂

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> Vermont’s senate on Wednesday passed a bill to legalize recreational marijuana use, which would make the state the first in the nation to do so through the legislative process rather than a ballot initiative.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/2 "2018-01-10T21:46:12Z")

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Welcome to the club, brother!

- from your friends in Nevada

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/3 "2018-01-10T22:37:18Z")

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About time another state joined the club. So which state is next?

Note that this only legalizes possession and growing your own. No retail sales. Will Vermont get that some time?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/4 "2018-01-10T22:40:15Z")

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It is now, and truly the GREEN MOUNTAIN STATE!! 🙂

Does this mean NH legalizes cocaine next???

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/5 "2018-01-10T22:42:38Z")

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I hope Session’s BP just went up 20 points.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/6 "2018-01-10T22:45:36Z")

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This really, really is the time to consider becoming a farmer. I see a big future in it.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/7 "2018-01-10T23:38:16Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Note that this only legalizes possession and growing your own. No retail sales. Will Vermont get that some time?

The article is kind of ambiguous on that point.

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> It does not immediately clear the way for retail sales of the drug, leaving that up to a commission created last year to study how to tax and regulate it.

I take that to mean the commission will develop a plan that will get rubber stamped by the legislature because the law will already allow it. It just needs guidelines and regulations.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/8 "2018-01-11T07:43:53Z")

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The state doesn’t allow ballot initiatives in the first place (for whatever reason) so legislative measures were the only means.

I have to wonder what inspired the governor, or whoever, to initiate the bill? They usually give at least a token reason - agricultural diversity, tax revenue, medical uses etc. Has anyone in Vermont legislature released any statement to that effect?

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/9 "2018-01-11T08:27:16Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> This really, really is the time to consider becoming a farmer. I see a big future in it.

Which legalised state has the best location (weather wise) for growing marijuana?

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/10 "2018-01-11T08:50:05Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> Which legalised state has the best location (weather wise) for growing marijuana?

Generally, far northern California and adjacent parts of Oregon is considered to have the best climate for marijuana. And guess what, there’s already lots of people there already doing that. Some of them are even doing it legally according to the laws of those states.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/11 "2018-01-11T12:46:17Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> Which legalised state has the best location (weather wise) for growing marijuana?

Any state with buildings. (Indoor grow enthusiast here)

But yeah, California/Oregon for outdoor grows.

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**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/12 "2018-01-11T14:43:57Z")

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Step by step.

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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/13 "2018-01-11T14:53:38Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> This really, really is the time to consider becoming a farmer. I see a big future in it.

I don’t know. It would depend on the state. Here in MA it is legal to own and grow. But you can only have six plants per person per residence (for up to two residents) And while you can grow it, it is illegal to sell it. So you can only grow it for personal use, and to give away. (meanwhile, it’s been legal here for a few years now, and they still won’t allow any place to sell it recreationally. Medical use only)

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/14 "2018-01-11T14:58:03Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Note that this only legalizes possession and growing your own. No retail sales.

As we’ve learned from Washington, DC, this is really the key part. There’s no point to having legal weed if there’s no way to acquire weed legally (aside from growing your own, which is just not practical for probably 99% of people).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/15 "2018-01-11T15:38:33Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> I have to wonder what inspired the governor, or whoever, to initiate the bill? They usually give at least **a token reason**

I assume this was autocorrected from “a toking reason”. 😃

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/16 "2018-01-11T15:42:00Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> About time another state joined the club. So which state is next?

I think New Jersey might be the next due up. We get our new Governor shortly and he said he would get it done in his 1st 100 days.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/17 "2018-01-12T03:53:01Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> … and he said he would get it done in his 1st 100 days.

…but then I got high…😃

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/18 "2018-01-12T04:22:05Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> [Vermont senate passes bill to legalize marijuana use](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vermont-senate-passes-bill-legalize-marijuana-use-n836536)
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> I didn’t see any other threads on this news so light one up for me! (In July) 🙂

Join Date: Apr 2006  
Location: SW Arkansas  
Posts: 5,832

How does that work when you’re in Arkansas? 😉

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/19 "2018-01-12T08:11:13Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I think New Jersey might be the next due up. We get our new Governor shortly and he said he would get it done in his 1st 100 days.

So there’ll be wall-to-wall dope shops near the Jersey ends of the bridges from NY and Philly. Or at the first few freeway off-ramps. If someone wants to get in on the next big thing, that may be it.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/recreational-marijuana-for-vermont/806365/20 "2018-01-12T13:33:03Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> This really, really is the time to consider becoming a farmer. I see a big future in it.

Better save up for a huge plot of land though and all the industrial farming equipment to go with it:  
[Legal Weed Isn’t The Boon Small Businesses Thought It Would Be](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/legal-weed-isnt-the-boon-small-businesses-thought-it-would-be/)

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> As California opens its market Jan. 1, Washington state’s experience serves as a warning.

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